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20 Oct 2004, 14:10
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Sir Slotalot ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 2,457 Joined: 4-January 04 From: South West London Member No.: 463 |
I thought you were a moderator, Scott....?
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20 Oct 2004, 14:41
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![]() Scott Brownlee ![]()
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I am, but I 'd rather he didn't post than wind people up or have me and the others running all over the board deleting stuff.
Or are you saying you enjoy his, er, contributions? -------------------- |
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20 Oct 2004, 15:13
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Phil Smith ![]()
Group: PLUS+ Posts: 4,534 Joined: 14-November 03 From: Kent, The Garden of England Member No.: 298 |
Got to agree with everything Moped said !
THe Simpsons will be highly collectable and add the the Moto GP to that. Also, from a couple of years ago the Scalextric Protec cars. In other words, anything that is not wanted now, when new, will be the collectables of tomorrow Just look at 1/24 Scalextric, no one wanted this when new, so much so that Triang had to dump truck loads of the stuff when they moved from Havant to Margate! Other than that I really don't know, wish I did |
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20 Oct 2004, 15:27
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Anthony Bartlett ![]()
Group: Moderators Posts: 1,318 Joined: 25-September 03 From: Brussels, Belguim-Formerly South Africa Member No.: 141 |
Phil
Agree with you - but what about those items that are in demand now (but not sold as collectable eg GT 40 Goodwood set) as inevitably the demand now (and I assume in future) will outstrip supply - eg the Black GT40? -------------------- Regards,
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20 Oct 2004, 15:28
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Team Owner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,024 Joined: 18-September 03 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 34 |
Thank you Phil. Its nice to know somebody understands!
The thing is "The Simpsons Scalextric" is one of Hornby's best selling lines. Its just that there will not be too many that survive the carnage intact. It might be worth snapping up the first of the Scalextric digital stuff and putting that away as that will almost certainly have value in 30 years time whatever happens. My only comment though would be that systems move on and whilst digital slot car racing will still be around, the current mode of operation probably won't be. Cheers Moped |
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20 Oct 2004, 15:36
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Team Owner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,024 Joined: 18-September 03 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 34 |
The problem with the GT40 set (I can relate to this through my model railway experiance) is that it has been purchased by adults and hardly anybody is destroying it. So there will still be a large number around in mint condition in 30 years time and this will affect the collectibility.
It is a nice set though! Even if digital takes over the whole world it should still be possible to upgrade the cars and they should still be able to run on digital track in 30 years time when they eventually enter true collector status. The problem with model trains is that you do get compatibility issues and older trains will not run on track currently in use today, so you do need to purchase vintage track to run your vintage trains! Cheers Moped |
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20 Oct 2004, 15:45
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Phil Smith ![]()
Group: PLUS+ Posts: 4,534 Joined: 14-November 03 From: Kent, The Garden of England Member No.: 298 |
I can only see most of these devaluing, after the initial hype people realise that they are not in short supply and the price drops, but they are kept in pristine condition because they are thought to be rare and valuable.
So in the future there will still be plenty available for future collectors. Best example of this is the Ninco Harrods mclaren, now the least valuable in the range, but once coveted as a holy grail! |
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20 Oct 2004, 17:46
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Now I agree with Phil, It's the car that don't sell when they are in production that will be the most collectable as long as they are not so useless that even in the future nobody will want them And all the FLY collector series will be worthless!!!!
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20 Oct 2004, 18:09
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![]() Gary Skipp ![]()
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QUOTE (philsmith @ 20 Oct 2004, 16:13) I'd say they were desirable for collection even now! -------------------- Gary
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20 Oct 2004, 21:48
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Team Owner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,024 Joined: 18-September 03 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 34 |
If the Protec cars are that desirable then considering the recent production of these you have to wonder why Hornby don't start manufacturing again?
Is it purely down to the car not being a good seller when it was offered? The danger of course is that any manufacturer can decide to reintroduce old models but the downside of this is that the manufacturer knows full well that there is a "collector" market and would loose a lot of credibility with its customers if it decided to offer reproductions of previous models. This has been done before of course with revamped packaging and a theme behind the repro models. I suspect that there are a few prime candidates for this to happen again at some point. Cheers Moped |
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20 Oct 2004, 23:33
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Sir Slotalot ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 2,457 Joined: 4-January 04 From: South West London Member No.: 463 |
I think with a minor re-design, the ProTech cars would be successfull now.
There is a market for racing cars now (as seen with the Fly, Spirit and Ninco Racing versions of their standard cars, and all of the Slot.It products). The problems with the ProTech cars were, IMO: - Everything was too heavy and too chunky. - The screw axels were too old fashioned, the wheels should have been grub screwed. - There was a rumour at the time that the cars wouldn't work with standard controllers, whereas the fact was that the faster motors simply needed a different ohmage controller to make them driveable. - They were too damn expensive! - Oh, and they should have done GT cars and not touring cars... These are just the reasons why I was put off at the time... McLaren -------------------- ![]() |
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21 Oct 2004, 02:55
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Slothead ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 146 Joined: 26-July 04 Member No.: 1,159 |
It would be next to impossible to guess which cars, if any, may be collectible.
I would guess that there will be significantly fewer slot car collectors in 30 years than now and that will be reflected in the values. For the people growing up now there are too many other interesting areas to pursue. There will probably be fewer people with the intense passion that my generation has for these wonderful toys and cars in general. Who can blame them for a lack of interest in the dull autos of today? |
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21 Oct 2004, 11:39
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![]() Sir Slotalot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,587 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Worcestershire Member No.: 47 |
You wouldn`t think like that after a visit to Phoenix on a Monday/Tuesday/Saturday when the kids are racing! They are mad for it, a lot keener than I was even at that age!!
The kids will always have other options but I reckon that the interest in slot racing will always be there even after most new racers have been put off by buying a Moto GP set! -------------------- `NEC ASPERA TERRENT`
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21 Oct 2004, 12:56
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Racer Dude ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 277 Joined: 20-August 04 From: West Sussex, UK. Member No.: 1,224 |
Hmmmm I have one of those Protec Audis, still in its box in the cupboard. I bought it on the off chance I would get to race it and there it stayed, never been used (except on a 9V battery). Ill dust it off when I get home now
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21 Oct 2004, 15:09
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![]() Trackhead ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 979 Joined: 30-September 03 From: Reading, Berkshire, UK. Member No.: 168 |
The Protec cars I would agree might be worth a few bob in the future - but I still think the Simpsons Scalextric sets are a cheap (and nasty) series (plus I'm a fan of the Simpsons on TV!).
All I have to say is, check out the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle rubbish Scaley produce in the late 80's / early 90's and that is nearly 20 years ago and they aren't commanding high prices on places like ebay! Cheers Mark PS: Keep letting Moped post, I think that he brings an interesting view to this Forum - thanks Mope! -------------------- |
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