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1 May 2010, 18:01
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![]() Top Tuner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 22-August 07 From: Germany Member No.: 7,474 |
Hi all,
I agree, a bridge does not add to it and makes it more difficult to compare lap times. I would like to suggest the following layout: ![]() Size for Ninco (Scaley should be a bit smaller): 2.84mx1.32m Track length of inner lane: 11,37m Racing is done on the inner lane Pros (imho): - Should suite at least Scaley, Ninco, SCX - No crossing - Mostly, inner lane is used - not many borders required - R1 is taken on the outside as the inner lane is too tight in my opinion, therefore outer borders are added there. - R1, R2, R3 included - If required, size can be reduced by removing straight pieces from the horizontal straights. - Change-over for (simple) handling test Cons: - No chicane - You will tell me more BTW: Anyone here who would like to do that for Ninco? Regards, Diegu -------------------- Diegu
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1 May 2010, 18:07
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![]() René 'Vialli' Christensen ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,840 Joined: 13-May 04 From: Circuit de Mobil1, Denmark Member No.: 895 |
Not everybody has the R3.
IMO you should keep it with R2 as that's what comes with a starter set. -------------------- |
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1 May 2010, 21:33
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![]() Top Tuner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 18-April 08 From: Brussels Member No.: 9,098 |
I'm one of the R3-less homeracers.
Therefore an idea to run maximum inside lane without 90° crossing (I have one but, as stated not everyone has it). ![]() Not finalised, only to show that with the (sport crossing R2 90°) you can also run more inside line on one of the lanes. Oh, yes, I'm using the Carrera electronic lapcounter that measures accurately to 100 of a sec an never fails. (I did put a scaley sticker over the brand name Testlane would be lane 1. |
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1 May 2010, 23:00
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David K Phillipson ![]()
Group: Moderators Posts: 1,155 Joined: 26-July 08 From: mansfield, notts Member No.: 9,601 |
heres my twopenny worth
![]() inside track for 19 corner sections out of 28 -------------------- ![]() ![]() |
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3 May 2010, 17:01
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Top Tuner ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 326 Joined: 10-November 09 From: USA Member No.: 13,433 |
we should do track pieces all the track types have, for instance us ssd guys have no straight lane crossover( yes I know adapters, I have that in my pits
are we talking constant throttle timing, I hope? -------------------- Scalextric Digital Track
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3 May 2010, 21:47
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![]() David Collins ![]()
Group: PLUS+ Posts: 1,501 Joined: 28-December 06 From: Olney, North Buckinghamshire, UK Member No.: 5,645 |
I like diegu's layout, very simple and practical. But as it's a test track I would use just one crossover so that you effectively have times over two laps.
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3 May 2010, 22:07
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Group: PLUS+ Posts: 1,299 Joined: 19-October 08 From: hampshire Member No.: 10,328 |
Apart from the Argos sets, I only have Ninco track and no crossovers. I think standard track pieces makes it easier for everyone to join in.
But once details are sorted i'm game. Pioneer cars will kick arse on this big time. IMO -------------------- The trouble with these Chinese slotcars is that you get one, and an hour later you fancy another one.
3 lane routed track Let's have a go at a rally track. www.circuitstoscale.co.uk |
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3 May 2010, 22:16
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Group: PLUS+ Posts: 2,239 Joined: 21-November 09 From: Norwich - UK Member No.: 13,545 |
This crossover thing has me bugged...
bridges are tough to compare... flat crossings brand dependant... Scalextric has curved lane crossovers... Other brands have straight ones... I think reducing borders to a minimum and innner lane running is a good idea for no mag... No wonder this has never reached fruition... so if we rule those pieces out anybody want to mod their own track designs and else want to drop one in... -------------------- |
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3 May 2010, 22:59
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Group: PLUS+ Posts: 2,239 Joined: 21-November 09 From: Norwich - UK Member No.: 13,545 |
Twist on tracks already suggested... All R2's for what its worth...
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3 May 2010, 23:49
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Top Tuner ![]() Group: PLUS+ Posts: 326 Joined: 10-November 09 From: USA Member No.: 13,433 |
I'd be curious to see the lane length differences when you build it with ninco or carrera parts in the planner
don't we want it so the whole lap is inside lane? that's why I was thinking flat oval. -------------------- Scalextric Digital Track
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4 May 2010, 00:21
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![]() Trevor Gordon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Group: Members Posts: 1,097 Joined: 8-December 09 From: Auckland, NZ Member No.: 13,730 |
Oval sounds good, and we can all make one, I think the only issue that it doesn't cover is how well the cars handle turning in both directions. maybe a square with s's instead of straights on 2 sides and striaghts on the other 2 sides?
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4 May 2010, 02:49
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![]() One petunia in a field of onions ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,367 Joined: 5-August 09 From: The Antipodes (Orstralia) Member No.: 12,718 |
Sorry for dropping in here but, while an oval is something everyone can build, I see a problem/failing with the idea.
Surely if the point is to test handling of cars you'll be wanting some areas of rapid direction change, be it esses or full on chicane or a 'hammerhead' corner. This will test tip and roll points on the car. Will also further test rear grip and containment. Alas, I don't have the leftover bits or room on the floor to consider joining in on the testing. But good luck with the project fellas. Embs -------------------- Anorak. Not just a fashion statement. It's a state of mind
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4 May 2010, 03:37
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LABATYD ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Group: Members Posts: 7,003 Joined: 9-February 09 From: Auburn, WA, USA Member No.: 11,397 |
I can't believe I missed this one.
So... the first thing that's popped into my head is that, since the whole point appears to be to post data about different cars so that people can know how it competes before they get one, or to compare different setups and such, or even compete, there MUST be at least some semblance of a common, known track. Not just the layout, but the type. Even those of us who only ever race on one type know that other types drive differently. The same layout in Scaley Classic and Sport will drive completely differently, not to mention Ninco or Carrera. Unless the track is the same type from result to result, then the results are meaningless, at least until the available results are complete enough to include multiple surfaces as well as cars. I'd love to participate, or to find other people's results useful, but I would only be able to share results on Scaley Sport, and would only pay attention to results for Scaley Sport. As far as layout design goes, I think it needs to be small and simple. Something that would come as a set and be likely to be easily made using spare track. It's only recently that I even have what I would call "spare" track, as pretty much every piece I owned was on my table layout. If it's a design that's common to sets, then someone who didn't already have spare track, or who ran on wood, but still wanted to participate, could pick up a set (like that cheap one recently acquired by many which then spawned this thread, I think). I think you guys are on the right track. Keep going. -------------------- |}>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |}>- The Magic of INOX MX3 as a braid/rail conditioner and how to apply it. |}>- My Scalextric Digital APB Instructional Videos |}>- Rainier Raceways is my home track |}>- SSD EXTREEEM!! showcase video |}>- My local digital club, DRAWW |}>- Swing by for a quick chat on my LIVE CHAT page. |}>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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4 May 2010, 12:27
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![]() Trevor Gordon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Group: Members Posts: 1,097 Joined: 8-December 09 From: Auckland, NZ Member No.: 13,730 |
Correct me if I am wrong, but the aim is to end up with a list of cars so one can see (in order of importance)...
a. Which cars can race against which in a fair fight (so I don't need to buy 4-6 of every type of car) b. the best a car can go with normal tuning (so I know what to aim for when tuning my cars) c. lap times to beat (so I have something to aim for again) d. the best a car can go with extraordinary tuning (so I can be impressed by what you fellas can do) How about this? ![]() or this ![]() come on, surely this is the one!!! |
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4 May 2010, 12:40
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![]() Slot-A-Holic ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I would go for our Distant kiwi friend option Nr 1.
Simple & everybody should be able to make one and its got it all -------------------- ![]() ![]() THINGIEPHILE REBEL EXTRAORDINAIRE |
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