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montoya1
post 29 Dec 2011, 18:23
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QUOTE (Julian_Boolean @ 29 Dec 2011, 18:03) *
not being anal about whether or not a car has the right stickers.


Apart from the national Nascar class, which only insists on factory colour schemes because there are so many, that is not where the focus is. It is more about the cars looking good, by whatever means. Missing wings don't fit that, so if there are ways to help people keep them on that has to be a good thing. Personally I think the answer lies in using the bodies less likely to lose the wings in the first place, especially as these are probably the best racing bodies as well.

Wings and other bits breaking off has always been an issue, always will be, and even more so with older bodies (as LeeH says). It is what you do about it that counts.


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Julian_Boolean
post 29 Dec 2011, 18:30
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Deane, I knew you'd bite tongue.gif

If you've got a supply of G+ F1 bodies apart from Ferraris and Mclarens could you share it with the rest of us. biggrin.gif
I agree the other bodies are better to race and more crash proof, but they're hardly common.
Mine, which had previously broke on the spoiler support, broke right across the rear of the body, it's going to need some serious bracing to be usable again, it's a horrible handling body though.


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montoya1
post 29 Dec 2011, 18:36
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Bite what? I guess I just get a bit tired of a national rule which says you must run one of hundreds of bodies, all of which fit with no modification, being described thus. Again.

I have some of the McLarens, indeed, but I am not going to let them go if they can't be braced and end up running around wingless.

As for the other bodies being scarce, indeed, but people will source them. It is one of the bugbears of running what you do. I suggest you look at getting copies made.


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post 29 Dec 2011, 20:12
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These comments getting a bit snippy, chill guys
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post 29 Dec 2011, 20:24
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QUOTE (montoya1 @ 29 Dec 2011, 18:36) *
I guess I just get a bit tired of a national rule which says you must run one of hundreds of bodies, all of which fit with no modification, being described thus.


A so called national rule, that is made up by you for a race series that runs in East Anglia, Kent, Worthing and Wiltshire, how can something be national that doesn't have any rounds north of the Wash? You seem to think you have some right to critcise other people's racing yet will accept no mild criticism of your own rules.

I suggest if you can't take a bit of mild winding up then you stop trying to wind other people up, the fact is I don't really care about EAHORC rules as they don't effect me.

LeeH, welcome to the wonderful world of HO racing in the UK, it's always a bit snippy.


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post 29 Dec 2011, 20:34
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Blimey Julian, where did all that come from?

Snippy? Winding up? Sorry, I am not seeing it.


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post 29 Dec 2011, 21:23
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Right my turn,

Tony the comment about "people's comments of those there carries more weight" no real need to spell it out as we all know that.

But in fairness to the above Deane, your saying about the video of the cars (look at the trouble you caused LeeT, only joking) from an a event you were not envited too. You go onto every clubs forum page and comment on all them giving your opinion on the way there clubs are running what happening etc and my question is why? There is a couple of clubs that come to mind that have nothing to do with eahorc but yet you try and get involved with them. Every club has it strength and every it's weakness, eahorc weakness with out any doubt is exactly what Julian says, you make the rules, you completely run it. Surely a proper national championship a) should go all over the country and cool.gif if all clubs apart from a few are represented in the championship those clubs should have a say how it run as there names are attached. Until this happens HO racing won't go any further fact.
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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:19
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I'm not attacking eahorc I want as I'm sure everyone does it to be the best series it can be and kudos to Deane for what he has achieved with the series but this has got to stop the battering given to all other series. I will say it out loud and don't care who doesn't like it between Deane, Tony and guys at chorc and DHORC all need heads banging together and get it sorted because it is ruining the enjoyment of HO racing for people who just want to race. Until everyone pulls in same direction nothing going to change.
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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:32
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Lee - If you go to any of the HO races you will have a good time racing. I enjoy my monthly club and EAHORC races and my two appearances at the 24 hour have been awesome.

To force all these to "pull in the same direction" or be run by a committee and I think we would lose some of the character that makes the UK HO scene so much fun.

This banter on the forums is just that - banter. It's very much secondary to the racing. I find it quite entertaining at times. Just so long as we remember to stay cool wink.gif





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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:33
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QUOTE (LeeH @ 29 Dec 2011, 22:19) *
I will say it out loud and don't care who doesn't like it between Deane, Tony and guys at chorc and DHORC all need heads banging together


Marvelous Tony and deane get a mention whereas the others are chorc and DHORC biggrin.gif I certainly see some favouritism there between the southerners and northerners wink.gif

QUOTE (LeeH @ 29 Dec 2011, 22:19) *
Until everyone pulls in same direction nothing going to change.


And who's direction is that, with so many differing personalities there's never going to be every club pulling in the same direction, we all do our own thing the way the majority of our club members want, and enjoy our racing, we don't have to all run the same rules as each other do we?






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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:41
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Sorry guys will make myself clearer the national championship should have every clubs involvement and imput each club does as it wishes at there meetings etc but surely a national championship should give all clubs input.

And some people may not like this but yes a committee should be headed by Deane. People who have a complete go at him are wrong. Yes he opinionated, yes he firey, yes he passionate. Look what he has done for HO racing being the first to put a national championship together. Did anyone else? No. Getting as many people involved as he has as well. Including myself it it wasn't thanks to Deane I would still know nothing of HO.

Yes stuff may have been said in the past that has upset or offended some people but isn't it about time that everyone worked together to run a full nation wide championship?? Maybe just me.
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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:48
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Good luck Lee.

Now watch the abuse as I have commented and then you will realise, the blue touch paper is now lit.........

Happy New Year

Cheers
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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:51
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QUOTE (DERBY (UK) HO RACING CLUB @ 29 Dec 2011, 22:48) *
Good luck Lee.

Now watch the abuse as I have commented and then you will realise, the blue touch paper is now lit.........

Happy New Year

Cheers
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I take it you're not up for the idea of a national then biggrin.gif


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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:55
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Nick and others admit would be minus deane well sorry guys but that is wrong
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post 29 Dec 2011, 22:56
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Absolutely am, we would love to race against others as we do at Le Mans, we were running HO Nationals in Derby in the late 80's, long before DHORC started in 1992, alongside CHORC, Stourbridge, Woodgreen etc etc.

A pity we can't at the moment, for the same reason as CHORC, one day it will change then we will be back

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