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post 25 Apr 2012, 12:49
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Hi All,

next year our club track will be digital and I am starting to think about prepping some of our existing older cars cars in readiness.

I am going to start with some old scaley Porsche 962c's - am happy with the soldering-in of the chips etc. but could do with half a dozen 'ferrite-men' can they be got ready to go? (i.e I just need to solder on!)

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post 25 Apr 2012, 16:16
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The chips come with one ferrite man. If you only have the one, it's best to put it on the motor, especially for the F1 solder-in chip.
Some cars are fine without one on either end.


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post 26 Apr 2012, 11:51
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Cheers Mr F.

Helpful as always.

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Chris
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post 26 Apr 2012, 12:04
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Hi Chris,
The 962C will either need a stronger magnet or better tyres as the grip is much less on a Sport track for these old girls. PM me if you need any extra capacitors, no ferrites though.


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post 28 Apr 2012, 07:57
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biggrin.gif Cheers Greg,

We have run a Scaley 962c class at our club for longer than I can remember - we use stronger mags and ortmanns otherwise you're dead right - they are all over the place!

Big advantage of them for us is that they are dirt cheap to replace and practically indestructable!

Thanks for the offer Greg - I'll see how I get on, hoping to chip the first one this weekend.

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Chris
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post 30 Apr 2012, 11:40
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biggrin.gif Hi Guys,

got the first one finished this weekend - bit of a fiddle (and there is plentyof room!) but hoping it works OK - nicked a ferrite chap off another motor. I'll post some pics up tomorrow if I get a couple of minutes.

Now waiting for my mate to drop round his digi set to test it!

Tell me - what is the purpose of the 'ferrite' bit? (As you can tell - not great at electronics!) I have plenty of capacitors from various old motors I can use.

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post 30 Apr 2012, 15:45
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It's just electronic noise reduction. From the motor, it helps prevent that noise from interfering with chip performance. As this is always present, it's best to have one at the motor whenever possible.
At the braid end, it's to help filter out spikes from the braids crossing over dead spots and even bridging two adjacent rails during a lane change. This is less common, but can have an effect on the chip nonetheless, and so should be put in place if you have one to put there, or if the car seems to have a tendency to stop dead for no apparent reason, lose its ID, or go off at full speed.


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post 30 Apr 2012, 20:43
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Mr. F.
I am sure some will ask this next question...
Is it possible to make a ferrite man from raw components rather than rob another car? Seems simple enough if one can identify the part numbers.
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post 1 May 2012, 05:09
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Certainly. The hard part is getting a ferrite core as small as the one they use, and with two holes to keep the legs isolated. I think I remember someone finding a suitable replacement a while ago, but I didn't need any and so did not note the source or part number.


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post 1 May 2012, 07:45
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Hi Porsche 904 - if you are not already aware of it; your might like to search SlotForum for Inox MX3 and acquaint yourself with its almost mystical properties - it makes a real difference to track conductivity and smoothness of digital running.

One application lasts months. I tend to treat my track every 6 weeks or so and it always runs smoothly.


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post 1 May 2012, 19:04
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biggrin.gif Thanks for the help Guys -

Mr. F thanks for the explaination - I figured it was probobly something like that! Anyhow, put two on to be on the safe side!

Mr.Modifier - I have some of the magic juice and use it currently - absolutely amazing the effect it has had on the circuit. I tend to drop a bit on the braids before each race night as well - I find that helps too.

OK, here are a couple of images of my first attempt at a retro chip - untested until my mate brings his digi set round but I am hopeful! I had room to raise the chip off the pan on a couple of pieces of H section extrusion. I thought it might help with any heat issues? Wasn't really sure whether or not I could stick it on a blob of hot glue so played safe a bit!









This car is really a bit of a test piece in readiness for the batch of seven 962s that I need to get busy with.

Have just sprayed up a spare body (they will all be colour-coded in fantasy livery) and am now having a search for the best axle/hub/insert combos to make the things look a little more 'realistic' I'll post some images when the body is decorated.

Thanks for the help - comments appreciated,

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post 8 May 2012, 08:11
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biggrin.gif Well, heres the finished article - it works - I'm going to crack on with the other six over the coming weeks!







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post 15 May 2012, 13:31
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Hi Chris,
Loving those 962Cs ........... where are you sourcing yours from as I can only find ridiculously pricey ones?? sad.gif


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post 16 May 2012, 07:41
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biggrin.gif Hi Greg,

thanks for the posiive comments.

These are old scaleys being given a makeover - you can get them as low as a tenner on epay and Ive had mint at twenty quid on there.

These days though, I find a good source are the various NSCC swapmeets up and down the country - again 15-20 is about the price and they 'scrub up' well enough! They go a treat too with a minimum of sorting.

I'm just applying some decals to another one I've done- I'll post it up when I get it finished off this weekend and I will be looking out for more at Gaydon.

Nice and cheap - easy to digitise and good runners - thats why I like themfor the club cars.

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post 5 Jun 2012, 10:37
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Hi Guys,

OK, so the club has bought a platignum set as the core for our permanent layout which will be assembled during our 'close season' from December to January.

Have had it out a couple of times to try and get to understand how it works well in advance, and (with the help of Mr. Flippants excellent instructional videos,) have managed to grasp a lot of it.

However - schoolboy error or just sheer dumbness - I set all the cars up as pace cars to race against to get a 'feel' for it.

Can't figure out how to 'un-pacecar' them! when I put another (different) car on the track, it is still randomly changing lanes!

Sure this is simple (but then so am I!)

Help Please!

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Chris
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