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> Earliest known hand controller, Is this the earliest known hand control?
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post 3 Dec 2003, 10:35
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During the research for the book, this is the earliest hand control we found, still belonging to the rail racer who used it along with some of his original rail cars. Does anyone know of an earlier one?

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JohnP
post 3 Dec 2003, 14:17
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Did you ...---... the marshal if you went off? smile.gif


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post 3 Dec 2003, 14:53
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LOL! laugh.gif
That's exactly what it looks like!
I thought they used bell pushes in the 'good old days'?
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post 3 Dec 2003, 15:18
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Yes, they used bell pushers, light switches - or anything else that could make and break the current.

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post 3 Dec 2003, 15:22
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Then there was Henri Baigent's P.O. generators/winders.


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post 4 Dec 2003, 15:51
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At first they didn't use the telegraph key, they just touched the bare wires together!
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post 4 Dec 2003, 19:42
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I remember seeing an article on Japanese slot racing in one of the mid-60s slot mags. The popular controller was a modified foot pedal (squeezed with two hands) from a sewing machine. I think Japanese technology made considerable strides after that.

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post 4 Dec 2003, 20:21
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Roughly what year are we in with the buttons and switches?
Trying to remember when varispeed controllers came in . . .
My first Scaley set was about 1963/4 so it's a bit earlier than that.
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post 4 Dec 2003, 20:33
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1955, this was right at the start of rail racing.

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post 4 Dec 2003, 20:42
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Interestingly, in D J L-D's book he says that the first tracks used variable resistors but the operators soon found that by using an on/off switch they could go considerably faster.

What goes around comes around.


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post 4 Dec 2003, 22:13
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The hairpin on the Brookland rail track would make it almost inpossible to use any kind of on/off switch controller. As the inside lane is very tight.

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post 5 Dec 2003, 10:32
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The hairpin on the Brookland rail track would make it almost inpossible to use any kind of on/off switch controller. As the inside lane is very tight.


Yes, and I imagine that it would have been even tougher using cars with early worm drive railway gears. Worm drive locks the drive wheels when the power is off preventing the car from coasting gracefully - I know this from racing model railway trains in my younger years smile.gif

DJ L-D goes on to say that they then developed a middle ground controller which had both a fixed resister for slower speeds and a full on button. This would solve the problem by enabling the car to coast in corners under low power.

I wonder RR, did you run a class for worm drive cars at Brooklands? If so, what were your experiences?


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post 5 Dec 2003, 14:24
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I own a couple of worm drive rail cars including the one raced in Abergavenny at the last summer rail race meeting.
This car was built and raced by John Jenner and is a copy of early ERA rail car. The car raced very well and was not much slower than the gear drive cars.

The advantage it had was their are no brakes on the rail track and the gear drive cars take a long time to slow down. If this car had been higher geared say 3.5/1 instead of the 6/1 it was it would have been hard to beat.

When Rail and slot racing ran side by side in the early 1960s it was rail racing which was the faster system by far.

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post 5 Dec 2003, 14:35
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When Rail and slot racing ran side by side in the early 1960s it was rail racing which was the faster system by far.

This quite surprises me!
Were they the same scale?
What were the significant differences?
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post 5 Dec 2003, 15:01
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...and no bias in your reply please RR biggrin.gif


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