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1968 BRM P126

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Without wishing to monopolise the 1960s F1 theme (I would love to see some others work), here's another car currently under construction which I mentioned I was planning in another thread.

Once again it's one of the excellent Classic shells. This BRM raced during a dip in the team's fortunes after Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart left the team at the end of 1966 & 67 and the team struggled with the H16 engine before admitting defeat and switching to the V12 for 1968 that would eventually have some success in the 153 and 160 chassis in the early 1970s.

BRM's were always very well engineered and this car looked superbly packaged as well as being a good looking design, it was always one of my favourites. I always remember a high spot being Richard Attwood's great race at Monaco in 68 when he came close to winning.

The standard Scalex motor that I prefer to use for home track use just fits this slim bodyshell - here's a couple of work in progress pictures. You'll see that I've just broken through the shell with the Dremel around the engine exhaust and intake area as space is at a premium but I'll clean that up when I prepare the shell for painting.




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John - is your reference to the great Pedro Rodriguez? If it is then yes he'll probably be the driver rather than Attwood - still not decided yet.

Maltese - The masters for the Classic shells were produced by the talented and innovative Charlie Fitzpatrick who has been involved in rail and slot racing for about 50 years and still producing these shells to this day. He is the talent which makes it possible for us to build these slightly different cars. The master is used to produce a female mould and then resin can either be "sloshed" round to form a shell or glass fibre and resin can be laid up inside. Here's a link to my efforts at resin casting
http://www.ssrcworld.com/david_lawson/davi...orris-minor.htm

Terry - I envy you spectating at the Tasman series - there were some great tracks, I had the pleasure of meeting Jack Brabham a couple of weeks ago at Brands Hatch.

Steve - you can cut the driver out without problems. Just work very slowly with the Dremel as the material is quite soft.

Was - As Phil has said you can get the Classic bodies at ABSlot and also at SCD
http://www.scdparma.fsnet.co.uk/
You normally only have to wait a few days for delivery.
Classic and Betta still sell direct to the public but you have to write and telephone and send cheques by post so you're probably better using the websites.

David
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Mike Spence was another favourite of mine who quietly got on with things, what a shame his crash came just as he was getting a real opportunity to show his talent.

As you say, great to see this amont of interest in 1960s Grand Prix racing

FORZA CLASSIC F1

David
I'm away from home at the moment I'll post a shot of the motor mounting when I get back.

David
QUOTE (newso @ 22 Jun 2004, 12:11)David,on the Brabham thing,one of the guys who races with me in our hard bodied 1/24 night in Sydney is the proud owner of Black Jacks first racer a speedway car from the very early 50's,Andrew has been invited to Goodwood (I think) to participate in a special Brabham historical meeting.I'm sketchy on the details but I know he leaves in about a months time cars' about to leave now I think.
Newso - That will be the "28" I assume which was a speedway midget racer and according to the book just out on Jack Brabham still exists. I know Brabham is at the Goodwood Festival of Speed 25/6-27/6/04 so that could be where the car is appearing.

David
QUOTE (JohnP @ 22 Jun 2004, 17:33)David seems to have used a similar "bracketless" method although I have to say his looks to be a far more robust job!
Here's the Lotus motor mounted in the frame. It is the same as John's method where the motor rests on the two rails which align and set the height of the motor to the rear axle line. I use a belt and braces approach by adding two small pieces of brass to each end so that the motor is supported all round. I probably don't have to do this but I've always favoured the robust or agricultural approach to making things - definitely unlike Colin Chapman.



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We are in good company with the agricultural theme as Jim Clark's racing career started with the Young Farmers Association and talking tractors, here's a slot conversion carried out by Derek Baker of the SSRC - almost nothing is safe from him turning it into a slotracer.



This particular tractor is seen here being "driven" by Joel Thura also of the SSRC and the artist behind the Jolly Green Giant from the Bordeaux thread.

You're right John, I do run the piano wire along the rear bearing for extra strength and I find it easy to get the angles right - I always completely cock up the front end which should be simpler but I find it a pain.

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Almost there now with the BRM. I've finished the chassis and managed to avoid the accidental tripod this time. The body has been tidied up and the basic paintwork done.



I've got the Patto BRM decal sheet and I'm just waiting on some more of the excellent detailing sets from Maxi Models to complete the driver (Pedro Rodriguez) and the wheel inserts. Fortunately, in 1968 which my F1 cars are based on, quite a few of the teams ran with the same wheels that the Honda and Lola used so Max Winter's products are coming in very useful. In fairness I must also commend ABSlot, Classic & Betta and Pendles for their fast and friendly services which keep our scratchbuilding hobby going.

David
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John - I used Halfords Ford Pine Green which isn't a match to the BRM's I've seen in the flesh but it's fairly close.

Russell - Thanks for the superb drawing. You'll not worry about the minor details of mirrors when you see the liberties I've taken with accuracy on this car! I'm sort of building the 1968 Belgian GP car where Pedro almost won but for almost running out of fuel, for total accuracy I should have widened the nose and blanked the radiator extractor ducts and also widened the cockpit/windscreen intake vent and added small fins on the nose. I have done none of this and to further stray from accuracy I've put the drivers name decal on it from 1969, purely because it was too nice not to use. Sometimes you just have to build a car the way you want it to look rather than getting bogged down with the detail - that's my excuse anyway.

Got my stuff from Maxi Models today so I can get on and finish it now.

David
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That's very useful John, I've saved it in my favourites.

David
I managed to get into the model room today and I've finished the BRM.

Here are a couple of pictures of the actual car in 1968.


This is Richard Attwood at Monaco - second place.


Here Pedro Rodriguez follows Bruce McLaren at Spa on his way to second place.

And here are pictures of the slot car. I haven't actually completely finished it as I still need to fit the body mounting post and the mirrors!! - Russell.





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QUOTE (PastimeRaceway @ 2 Jul 2004, 00:35)How did you build the exhaust pipes?
Steve - I only painted the exhausts they are the original moulding of the wonderful Classic shells. I did actually add the intake trumpets other than that it's as bought. I know I keep banging on about them but these shells are just £5.50 and are superb, they open up so many model making opportunities for the slot car builder.

David
I trimmed the MRRC guide down a little to fit, fitted the body mounting post and the BRM has taken to the track for it's first run at Earls Hall Park and the motor popped out on the third lap...that's good old BRM for you. It's the first of my 60s F1's to have a mechanical glitch and it is the first of my chassis to rely on the motor being attached to the chassis rails, I reverted to my "belt and braces" approach and added the small mounts at either end of the motor and it seems ok now.

You will see in the photo that the car has tyre wear to front and rears just to prove I avoided the accidental tripod as patented by John and me. The car goes very well and is definitely my quickest F1 to date. The photo also shows it is now finished with the small windscreen deflector fitted.



The last shameless self promotion photo of the track in this thread showing the pits with the BRM.



I spent some time last night cleaning up the Classic Brabham BT26 and Matra MS11 V12 bodies as I continue in my quest to build an example of each car on the 1968 F1 grid, now Mr Fitzpatrick didn't make a Cooper-BRM so that will be a bit more complicated....

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I've at last given in and had a go at making some mirrors for Pedro's BRM. Once again it's thanks to this forum as I read about various methods others were using and decided to use corn on the cob sticks from KFC sanded them to shape in a Dremel, cut plastic card discs with my leather punch, drilled them and mounted them to the body with brass rod.



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Fergy - The wheels and inserts are the Maxi-Models Hondola set. They are accurate enough for various F1 cars of tha era.

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