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Hi Slotters,

I'm new here but having been on this forum everyday for the last week and figured it was time to contribute myself.
Just got an idea last night, tried it with success and here I am wanting to share it with you guys.

After struggling with a good place to put my laptop around my curcuit I figured, why not use my iPad?.
So, the idea is simple, use an iPad or similar device. Get an app (Maxivista for iPad) that supports extending your desktop to that device, drag the leaderboard from SSDC onto that desktop area and Presto:

You have a wirelsss JumboTron/Tower.

What device you use and how you mount it around your curcuit is up to your imagination (maybe built into a tower or use a nice looking "JumboTron-stand").



That's it.

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For those interested, a little background on myself.

Was youtubing about 2 years ago and stumbled across Riko´s videos about the pitpro. Being a racing fan (cars, bikes whatever) I loved the idea. Despite always being a fan of all sorts of racing, I've never had slotcars as a kid. Now I'm a grownup and have 2 kids on my own. With 2 girls, and I mean pink girly girls, figured they will never be wanting to have slotcars for christmas. Talked to wife about it, kind of complaining. Next you know, she got me the Triple Cup set for christmas.

So I unpacked it, drove about 10 laps or so and thought to myself: The original pitgame is lame and track needs to be bigger. Also, if digital allows for 6 cars, you MUST have six cars. Just like we have 7 controllers for our Playstation - simply cause you can! The more friends, the merrier

So I started reading about the new APB that was in the pipes (this was 2 years ago), figured it would take a while, so I put the set in the wardrobe and kind of forgot about the whole thing.

2 weeks ago, during lunch at work, we started talking about Slotcars. Got to think about the old christmas present and how of a shame it is, that the expensive kit my wife bought is just laying in my wardrobe collecting dust. Figured, the best way to not make those money go to waste, was to spend some more and make use of it
Looked around and soon figured that the platinum kit was the best deal. So here I am, having bought the platinum set + a bunch of extra track, got the Pitpro upgrade through Riko and also C7042 PC-cable and SSDC. and also ordered $120 worth of electronics to fix the powered flippers

It's (un)healthy being a kid with a grownup's wallet


Speaking of the flippers, have an idea there and will get back to you when I'm done with my tests


I'm an "all-in" kind of guy, and now that my HomeTheatre PC with TV-server project is up'n'running, I need a new "hobby". Looks like you'll here more from me soon.

(For those interested in HTPC, just PM me and I'll tell you more. I've got 1 TV-server, allowing for viewing/recording 6 different channels at the same time using only one subscription (leagel within the same household here in Sweden), and hooked up to that, I have 4 client computers/TVs and also behing able to watch TV on my iPad and iPhone.)

Cheers

Anders
 

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Welcome to the forum, sounds like you could an interesting build going here!

For the remote station, I've goit a 23" TFT on the end of a cat5 VGA sender. I like your wireless option, but the kids would liberate any i-Pad or tablet I tried your idea with.

Timing is everything, I just had a flipper go semi-dead on me last night. Admittedly, I was pretty tired and just fancied banging a few laps in, so haven't done much trouble shooting on it yet. Looking forward to what you have to say on the subject.

Cheers.
 

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Brilliant idea Anders, but now that means I have to buy an ipad for christmas


That is just a brilliant idea and suits my rug-racing approach. Thanks!
 

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Wow this opens up all sorts of possibilities.

Can you do it with Android devices? - these are 1/3 the price of an iPad for a 10" display and about £50 for a 7" display.

Also - is it possible to duplicate your display across more than one device? I'm thinking that if you had a few racers with their own iPads or Android tablets you could have one display per driver station. Now that would be good.
 

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QUOTE (Mr Modifier @ 6 Dec 2011, 13:12) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can you do it with Android devices?

Haven't looked much into it, just took it for granted and had andriod in mind when saying: "similar device". Think the app IDisplay can do it for you, but again, haven't looked into it.

QUOTE (Mr Modifier @ 6 Dec 2011, 13:12) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Also - is it possible to duplicate your display across more than one device? I'm thinking that if you had a few racers with their own iPads or Android tablets you could have one display per driver station. Now that would be good.

Yeah, good idea. What I did was to extend the desktop to my iPad. But if you can use an application that mirrors the desktop AND supports several devices, then you are good to go. Don't know if Maxivista (the one I used) supports mirroring, and don't think it supports multiple iPads. I'll look into it tonight.

Now my head got spinning...
For those with a permanent track, wouldn't it be cool to hang a webcam in the ceiling, hook it up to your computer, put the viewport window in your extended desktop on your iPad/Andriod. Means you would have a JumboTron on your curcuit, showing a constant Heli-cam


And... thoughts flowing, and also make an application, that controls the viewport from webcam, hooked up to SSDC, so when ever a trackcall comes on, the application controling the webcam veiwport, would play an instant replay (rewinding about 10s or so).


And... maybe having a second/third webcam placed hidden on the track, and the webcam application could alternate between track and heli-cams.
 

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Hi Anders and welcome to the forum. Love the use of the iPad for the display and was always wondering what else I could use these for, well now I know and I will be giving this a go. I'll have a look at the app for the iPad and tell the kids that Dad needs to borrow theirs for use on the racing track.

Awesome

Matt
 

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QUOTE (Juhlen @ 6 Dec 2011, 13:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And... maybe having a second/third webcam placed hidden on the track, and the webcam application could alternate between track and heli-cams.

Why not go the whole hog and put a wireless cam in a car? There's a power supply already there so it wouldn't add too much weight - what you need is a camera in the back of a transit van running as a pace car. Or maybe two cameras in the van - one front and one rear. If you put in a big enough capacitor you could even film your crashes!

Better get a faster wireless router - I can see your bandwidth shrinking by the second!!!
 

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Just a few notes/pointers:

I didn't do much research in what app is best for doing this, I just found Maxivista, tried it and it works.
There are others out there. IDisplay, Air Display etc.
So you might wanna take your time and look into others as well. Your call.

What I did was to EXTEND the desktop and used that area for the leaderboard.
One could probably use Duplicate and get the same result (granting you keep your leaderboard within SSDC window.
If these apps extend their functionality to support several devices, that would be an option for what Mr Modifier is looking for.
Don't think any of em do as of today, however I read something about one of em supporting this in the future.

On the other hand, to get the multiple devices functionality, one could probably do the other way around. Instead of letting you project the display onto your device, you connect your device to the pc with a remote desktop kind of app, preferably one that allows for several connections at the same time.

I know VNC allows this for PC. E.g. Both PC1 and PC2 can connect and look at PC3´s desktop at the same time.
If one could find such app for the device in question - you would have the solution you are looking for.
So, SSDC-PC would run VNC-server or similar, and wireless devices would connect with a VNC-type of client.
 

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That's the Christmas break project sorted out then!!!

After I have finished lighting my track, and building my 4WD Mini, and refurbishing 8 Nascars for my digital layout, and building my website, and refurbishing that BMW 3.0 CSL that's been staring at me from the shelf for the last 6 months, oh yes and painting a MK1 escort pink in a vain effort to get my wife to understand my obsession, building a couple more transit conversions, building a grandstand and some marshalling stations for the track, and......

OK Easter project.

Seriously though - this is a great idea to explore. Exciting times for digital racing!!!

 

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Gonna try tonight, but as I said, VNC should be able to do the trick.

It's known as a shared connection. You can set it up on the
"Sharing" page of the VNC server's options dialogue box. You probably
want the the "Always treat new connections as shared" option, with the
"Non-shared connections replace existing ones" turned off.


And the good news is that VNC viewer is available for both Android and iPad (IOS).
Also, unlike my first setup, now we can also control SSDC from our devices.
 

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Carefull which VNC product you use - RealVNC is very leaky, so if used on a wireless setup, you could have unwanted guests. It's also very simple to aggressively take control of RealVNC and lock the owner/admin out of it.

I prefer UltraVNC or Daneware.
 

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Let me get this straight (as a very rusty ex techy) - you can run an android tablet as an input device driving the PC through a mirrored image of the PC screen?

If this is so then that makes running my track for events so much easier as I can tuck the laptop away and not trip over it when marshalling.

My household is receiving 3 android tablets this Christmas - one 10" and two 7" and I have a Dell Streak 5" android tablet phone already. The 10" cost £160 but the two 7" tablets cost under £110 for the pair. All of a sudden this is looking promising. Those car mounts with the flexible arms could be very handy - raising the displays just above impact height from flying slot cars!

Going to have to try some tech wizardry this holiday.

As an aside this also opens up the possibility of a PC behind my telly as a home cinema/media centre driven by the family tablet so I can keep the telly clear of everything except the films/programmes/images. I can feel myself being sucked back into techdom.
 

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QUOTE (snurfen @ 6 Dec 2011, 16:06) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Carefull which VNC product you use - RealVNC is very leaky, so if used on a wireless setup, you could have unwanted guests. It's also very simple to aggressively take control of RealVNC and lock the owner/admin out of it.

I prefer UltraVNC or Daneware.

You have a point, but I'm not all that worried. I'm not gonna let my VNC-server through my router (internet), I'll keep it on my WiFi-lan. Thus, security breaks down to WPA2 on my WiFi. Which I trust to be secure enough.

QUOTE (Mr Modifier @ 6 Dec 2011, 16:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Let me get this straight (as a very rusty ex techy) - you can run an android tablet as an input device driving the PC through a mirrored image of the PC screen?

Correct.

Install VNC server on Laptop running SSDC. Connect with X VNC viewer devices and tuck that Laptop away. Any of the VNC viewers will be able to control the laptop. Just make sure you asign a "master" dude, or you will be fighting over that mouse cursor
Won't be a problem though, since you are gonna be within the same room


It was different when I used to host a PC game server like this. All the members in my squad had access to it. Worked like a charm. But at times, when you were configuring stuff, all of a sudden someone logged in at the same time and started to configure other stuff, and you would see the curser take of and do stuff on its own, atleast thats what it felt like.
 

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For those running sdcc on a Mac (in Parallels) "MyMac" app for iPad allows you to use the iPad as a remote terminal, like VNC (as I understand it, although I don't know VNC)

Cheers

Andrew
 
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