QUOTE I see it has one of the new "pod" guide housings.......................Jon do you know if this is to be "standard issue" on all new Scalextric models?..................
Looks like they've changed the chassis to use the new guide blade system as the earlier models didn't have it. I'd imagine they will decide on a car by car basis whether or not to modify the chassis - with all future liveries using the new chassis / guide blade. If a car needs the pod housing, it will have it.
QUOTE Final production car may differ from photograph of car in catalogue 45.
Everyone knows and accepts that final products may differ from the catalogue, and I don't have a problem with this. My point is that Scalextric do not inform anyone of the product changes, and don't even bother updating their website.
Just what is this new performance-enhancing wonder guide that Scaley has developed? Why is it needed? Is it an admission that their cars do not corner well enough now? Do they need to be even more "on rails", particularly with magnets? Frankly, I have been less than impressed with their past efforts at guide shoe innovations.
Mope wrote: "For classic curvacious cars what other option is there?"
Well, only the same option that has been used by nearly every manufacturer for the last 40 years or so. IMHO seeing a bit of guide is MUCH LESS objectionable than an unnatural protuberance that looks like a goiter hanging under a car's nose. Or is this new guide system somehow related to future digital requirements? The price of progress?
QUOTE Just what is this new performance-enhancing wonder guide that Scaley has developed?
It does make a big difference and allows cars to slide much better around corners whilst maintaining power to the motor. In fact the new Scalextric guide system just about leads the market in this area right now.
It has been designed with club racers in mind however the home racer benefits as an aside. If Scalextric were to insist that magnets were never to be removed from their cars and the body and chassis were superglued/heat welded together to make it impossible to remove the magnets then a new guide would not have been required. However, with magnetless racing becoming more popular then well done to Scalextric for considering this improvement.
(in fact I suspect Adrian Norman had a say in the matter).
Why don't you try it speedyweenie?
PS looking at my collection the car with the most pronounced guide at the front is the Carrera 1:24 scale E-type, which again is a car with a very curvacious body. When its on the track I simply do not think twice about it however and look at the car not the guide under. Generally there are hardly any cars of modern outline that suffer from an exposed guide as they all have flat ground hugging bottoms or spoilers at the front to hide the blade. The compromise is going to be with older classic cars with the more flowing sexy bodywork.
Thanks Mope, but I still don't understand. Why would non-mag racing (club or at home) require a new guide design? I race Scaley cars on wood tracks all the time. Like I said, most manufs have used standard guide systems for 40-50 years (w/o mags) with no problems.
Why don't I try one? Because I think they are damn ugly and I don't see the need. Has there been a review of any Scaley cars equipped with the guide? It would be nice to read an objective evaluation.
I think Moped's making stuff up again. There is a 'club' aspect to the guide, but that is the quick change aspect of the guide. I haven't read or heard anything suggesting that scalextric have made any serious assaults on the non-mag racing arena, although they realise it would be good to do so.
A Hornby rep said club feedback initiated the research for the guide. You were present when the rep made the comment Astro!
The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
QUOTE I race Scaley cars on wood tracks all the time
That might explain it speedweenie. You are racing on a circuit with very large radius curves and probably never hit the stop on the old guide. If you were racing on plexy track with its small radius curves and lots of swing action then you would appreciate the difference.
Sorry Mope, I'm afraid I consider that comment rubbish!.
QUOTE The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
Slot cars do not need large protrusions beneath their front aprons to make them handle better, be that magnet or non-magnet. I suppose Scalextric may have designed it to prevent their guides being knocked completly out in the event of a crash, as can happen with the MG Lola, (an easy fix by the way, replace the guide with a TSRF one!).
I'm sorry I refuse to buy any car that has one of those Monstrosities slung beneath it, and alas that will include the forthcoming Vanwall and Maserati 250.
"You are racing on a circuit with very large radius curves and probably never hit the stop on the old guide."
Mope, sometimes you make the most outlandish assumptions that only illustrate your limited experience and narrow approach to the hobby. The track in my basement is a tight, routed, 50' three-lane affair. Curve radii range from 4" (that's INCHES) to about 2 feet - hardly the image of Blue Kings that you seem to assume all wood tracks must be.
If the problem is loss of contact when sliding, the culprit is the Scaley "hard-wired" plug-in guide design, not the type of track it is used upon. Normal guides don't have this problem.
I wish Adrian or someone knowledgeable could provide some insight into Scaley R&D thinking…..
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