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Came across this while looking for the new corvette street version. Does anyone know anymore about this Scaley GM Test car? Will it be available everywhere?
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As far as I'm aware, that is the new street version of the vette. I know it's now available in the UK as Getslotted etc. have them in stock:
As far as I'm aware, that is the new street version of the vette. I know it's now available in the UK as Getslotted etc. have them in stock:
Correct, this is the C2575 'Street Version'.
Scalextric decided to totally change the livery, without bothering to tell anyone.
Including those responsible for the Scalextric website - which is still showing the originally planned livery from the catalogue.
Jon,
Slot City.
Scalextric decided to totally change the livery, without bothering to tell anyone.
Including those responsible for the Scalextric website - which is still showing the originally planned livery from the catalogue.
Jon,
Slot City.
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This was C2575 (I think a 1968 C3)
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photo: Scalextric
and this is C2575 (I think a 1969 big block C3)
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photo: GetSlotted
photo: Scalextric
and this is C2575 (I think a 1969 big block C3)
photo: GetSlotted
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·if you look at the information about the 'vette on the scalextric website, they did say :-
Final production car may differ from photograph of car in catalogue 45.
Final production car may differ from photograph of car in catalogue 45.
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If it is an issue just paint it black.
The new guide improves the handling of the cars when cornering and so if the shroud is a necessary by-product of the use of the new guide then so be it.
The TVR has a flat chassis pan so it was not needed but for cars with a moulded curved chassis pan then clearly it will be required.
The spoiler on the previous Vettes did a job of hiding the guide but the new street Vette does not have this item of bodywork.
For classic curvacious cars what other option is there?
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The new guide improves the handling of the cars when cornering and so if the shroud is a necessary by-product of the use of the new guide then so be it.
The TVR has a flat chassis pan so it was not needed but for cars with a moulded curved chassis pan then clearly it will be required.
The spoiler on the previous Vettes did a job of hiding the guide but the new street Vette does not have this item of bodywork.
For classic curvacious cars what other option is there?
Moped
QUOTE I see it has one of the new "pod" guide housings.......................Jon do you know if this is to be "standard issue" on all new Scalextric models?..................
Looks like they've changed the chassis to use the new guide blade system as the earlier models didn't have it. I'd imagine they will decide on a car by car basis whether or not to modify the chassis - with all future liveries using the new chassis / guide blade. If a car needs the pod housing, it will have it.
QUOTE Final production car may differ from photograph of car in catalogue 45.
Everyone knows and accepts that final products may differ from the catalogue, and I don't have a problem with this. My point is that Scalextric do not inform anyone of the product changes, and don't even bother updating their website.
Jon,
Slot City.
Looks like they've changed the chassis to use the new guide blade system as the earlier models didn't have it. I'd imagine they will decide on a car by car basis whether or not to modify the chassis - with all future liveries using the new chassis / guide blade. If a car needs the pod housing, it will have it.
QUOTE Final production car may differ from photograph of car in catalogue 45.
Everyone knows and accepts that final products may differ from the catalogue, and I don't have a problem with this. My point is that Scalextric do not inform anyone of the product changes, and don't even bother updating their website.
Jon,
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Just what is this new performance-enhancing wonder guide that Scaley has developed? Why is it needed? Is it an admission that their cars do not corner well enough now? Do they need to be even more "on rails", particularly with magnets? Frankly, I have been less than impressed with their past efforts at guide shoe innovations.
Mope wrote: "For classic curvacious cars what other option is there?"
Well, only the same option that has been used by nearly every manufacturer for the last 40 years or so. IMHO seeing a bit of guide is MUCH LESS objectionable than an unnatural protuberance that looks like a goiter hanging under a car's nose. Or is this new guide system somehow related to future digital requirements? The price of progress?
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Mope wrote: "For classic curvacious cars what other option is there?"
Well, only the same option that has been used by nearly every manufacturer for the last 40 years or so. IMHO seeing a bit of guide is MUCH LESS objectionable than an unnatural protuberance that looks like a goiter hanging under a car's nose. Or is this new guide system somehow related to future digital requirements? The price of progress?
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I already have the street black one with flames (S&H set), and I quite like the new guide system.
My paint finishes are not as good as scalextric's, and it seems that any project like that ends up with a sky-rocketting project, so I only do ones I really want !
As well as the paint finish, there is the wheels, and the exhausts (the street version should have exhausts out the back - the body even has the arches for them)
Also I can't see in the pics a chrome bumper, although it may be there. But there are no chrome bits on the grill like in the picture.
I think its kind of ok, but not good enough or different enough to tempt me into buying a 3rd corvette (the one in the pic would have had my money)
My paint finishes are not as good as scalextric's, and it seems that any project like that ends up with a sky-rocketting project, so I only do ones I really want !
As well as the paint finish, there is the wheels, and the exhausts (the street version should have exhausts out the back - the body even has the arches for them)
Also I can't see in the pics a chrome bumper, although it may be there. But there are no chrome bits on the grill like in the picture.
I think its kind of ok, but not good enough or different enough to tempt me into buying a 3rd corvette (the one in the pic would have had my money)
Actually IMHO the street version should definitely HAVE ruddy great sidepipes so well done to Scaley on that issue
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Lake? pipes look cool and I can only hope to own a full size muscle car with such exhausts
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Sorry Astro, you know me and my muscle car fetish!!
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Sorry Astro, you know me and my muscle car fetish!!
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QUOTE Just what is this new performance-enhancing wonder guide that Scaley has developed?
It does make a big difference and allows cars to slide much better around corners whilst maintaining power to the motor. In fact the new Scalextric guide system just about leads the market in this area right now.
It has been designed with club racers in mind however the home racer benefits as an aside. If Scalextric were to insist that magnets were never to be removed from their cars and the body and chassis were superglued/heat welded together to make it impossible to remove the magnets then a new guide would not have been required. However, with magnetless racing becoming more popular then well done to Scalextric for considering this improvement.
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(in fact I suspect Adrian Norman had a say in the matter).
Why don't you try it speedyweenie?
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Moped
PS looking at my collection the car with the most pronounced guide at the front is the Carrera 1:24 scale E-type, which again is a car with a very curvacious body. When its on the track I simply do not think twice about it however and look at the car not the guide under. Generally there are hardly any cars of modern outline that suffer from an exposed guide as they all have flat ground hugging bottoms or spoilers at the front to hide the blade. The compromise is going to be with older classic cars with the more flowing sexy bodywork.
It does make a big difference and allows cars to slide much better around corners whilst maintaining power to the motor. In fact the new Scalextric guide system just about leads the market in this area right now.
It has been designed with club racers in mind however the home racer benefits as an aside. If Scalextric were to insist that magnets were never to be removed from their cars and the body and chassis were superglued/heat welded together to make it impossible to remove the magnets then a new guide would not have been required. However, with magnetless racing becoming more popular then well done to Scalextric for considering this improvement.
Why don't you try it speedyweenie?
Moped
PS looking at my collection the car with the most pronounced guide at the front is the Carrera 1:24 scale E-type, which again is a car with a very curvacious body. When its on the track I simply do not think twice about it however and look at the car not the guide under. Generally there are hardly any cars of modern outline that suffer from an exposed guide as they all have flat ground hugging bottoms or spoilers at the front to hide the blade. The compromise is going to be with older classic cars with the more flowing sexy bodywork.
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Thanks Mope, but I still don't understand. Why would non-mag racing (club or at home) require a new guide design? I race Scaley cars on wood tracks all the time. Like I said, most manufs have used standard guide systems for 40-50 years (w/o mags) with no problems.
Why don't I try one? Because I think they are damn ugly and I don't see the need. Has there been a review of any Scaley cars equipped with the guide? It would be nice to read an objective evaluation.
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Why don't I try one? Because I think they are damn ugly and I don't see the need. Has there been a review of any Scaley cars equipped with the guide? It would be nice to read an objective evaluation.
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I think Moped's making stuff up again. There is a 'club' aspect to the guide, but that is the quick change aspect of the guide. I haven't read or heard anything suggesting that scalextric have made any serious assaults on the non-mag racing arena, although they realise it would be good to do so.
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A Hornby rep said club feedback initiated the research for the guide. You were present when the rep made the comment Astro!
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The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
QUOTE I race Scaley cars on wood tracks all the time
That might explain it speedweenie. You are racing on a circuit with very large radius curves and probably never hit the stop on the old guide. If you were racing on plexy track with its small radius curves and lots of swing action then you would appreciate the difference.
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The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
QUOTE I race Scaley cars on wood tracks all the time
That might explain it speedweenie. You are racing on a circuit with very large radius curves and probably never hit the stop on the old guide. If you were racing on plexy track with its small radius curves and lots of swing action then you would appreciate the difference.
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Sorry Mope, I'm afraid I consider that comment rubbish!.
QUOTE The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
Slot cars do not need large protrusions beneath their front aprons to make them handle better, be that magnet or non-magnet. I suppose Scalextric may have designed it to prevent their guides being knocked completly out in the event of a crash, as can happen with the MG Lola, (an easy fix by the way, replace the guide with a TSRF one!).
I'm sorry I refuse to buy any car that has one of those Monstrosities slung beneath it, and alas that will include the forthcoming Vanwall and Maserati 250.
Regards
Alan
QUOTE The rotation angle is greater and this allows cars to slide wider without hitting the guide stop. Formerly club racers would remove the stop on the old guide by cutting it but then you would loose power to the motor if you overcooked the slide angle. The new guide allows much smoother cornering without magnets or with lightweight magnets and with constant power to the motor.
Slot cars do not need large protrusions beneath their front aprons to make them handle better, be that magnet or non-magnet. I suppose Scalextric may have designed it to prevent their guides being knocked completly out in the event of a crash, as can happen with the MG Lola, (an easy fix by the way, replace the guide with a TSRF one!).
I'm sorry I refuse to buy any car that has one of those Monstrosities slung beneath it, and alas that will include the forthcoming Vanwall and Maserati 250.
Regards
Alan
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·Now I am a big Scalextric Fan, but I would not buy a car with that guide pod under it as it looks horrible.
RR, SORRY
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"You are racing on a circuit with very large radius curves and probably never hit the stop on the old guide."
Mope, sometimes you make the most outlandish assumptions that only illustrate your limited experience and narrow approach to the hobby. The track in my basement is a tight, routed, 50' three-lane affair. Curve radii range from 4" (that's INCHES) to about 2 feet - hardly the image of Blue Kings that you seem to assume all wood tracks must be.
If the problem is loss of contact when sliding, the culprit is the Scaley "hard-wired" plug-in guide design, not the type of track it is used upon. Normal guides don't have this problem.
I wish Adrian or someone knowledgeable could provide some insight into Scaley R&D thinking…..
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Mope, sometimes you make the most outlandish assumptions that only illustrate your limited experience and narrow approach to the hobby. The track in my basement is a tight, routed, 50' three-lane affair. Curve radii range from 4" (that's INCHES) to about 2 feet - hardly the image of Blue Kings that you seem to assume all wood tracks must be.
If the problem is loss of contact when sliding, the culprit is the Scaley "hard-wired" plug-in guide design, not the type of track it is used upon. Normal guides don't have this problem.
I wish Adrian or someone knowledgeable could provide some insight into Scaley R&D thinking…..
mp
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that look shocking yes I know it's american and most do look shocking..
anyway, moped, if scalex are so good, why are they never used for enduro's?
I seem to remember we tried to use the early sport mclarens for a 4 hr enduro.. the tyres were shagged after 2 hours!
there carp!
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