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ARC PRO simple mod to switch the lap sensor into APB-mode

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This simple modification switches the lap counting sensor of the ARC PRO into an APB-compatible mode.

The modification relaxes the ID-LED-to-guide-blade constraints of the ARC PRO enabling cars with surechange guides and/or cars with ID LEDs placed a long way back from the guide blade, still, to function correctly. This is achieved by switching the lap counting dual sensor into an APB-compatibility mode.

In making this modification, the analog lap counting function is lost.

The modification is straight forward... and done carefully can be reversed if necessary.

The modification is for DIGITAL use only.

The following nine photos show the procedure (no text)...

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Yes - this works for both version v0.3 and v0.4. It does not address the lap counting reliability issue with LC button pressed for v0.3 - that requires the resistor swap-out.

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Just two points to ensure a successful result:

1/ Take care when removing the small white four pin plug... try not to tug on the wires... instead... carefully loosen from the sides of the socket.

2/ Take care not to damage the blade detect sensor parts which stand up-right from the pcb - these can be easily damaged. They are no longer used after the modification... but reversing the modification would fail if these parts become bent or damaged.

Enough from me ;)

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Can I also just cut the grey cable if I don't need backward compatibility? Seems to be easier, my Arc Pro is out of guaranty anyway :)
I would recommend waiting a couple of weeks before doing anything which is hard to reverse i.e. wait and see what others find regarding this mod. If you do decide to cut the grey wire... I would propose the cut is made 2-3cm back from the plug... so that a rejoining could be effected if ever desired.

Hope this helps.

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Yes - I have a version which uses a pnp transistor with integral base biasing resistor... base drive supplied from the analog/digital slider switch. All running nicely. The transistor is on a small plug-in board for easy assembly. I have a batch made up for friends who asked earlier in the year. They are locked down in my lab at present so beyond reach.

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If folk like the above mod, I will share the pnp design with Hornby for possible future integration into v0.5... lets see.

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Any feedback on whether this mod is liked or not, and whether it does what it says on the can, would definitely help in due course please. Ive been using the mod for about six months with no issues whatsoever. Hopefully others will enjoy a similar experience ;)

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So there are three options...

1/ remove the grey wire as per above (DIGITAL MODE ONLY)

2/ butcher the sensor board and add a low profile switch (as per kind suggestion by Klitgaard and now as per photo below).

3/ wait for one of my DIY plug in boards with onboard pnp transistor which auto selects between modes. Apologies to everyone who is patiently waiting to give this option a try!

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Switch position:

left= normal ARC PRO mode (digital/analog)
right= APB mode (digital only)

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Two questions comes to mind...
Any downside to this mod?
Does this mod address the issue of not register non black guide blades?
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Over the months...no issues with sunlight or LED ceiling lighting - I had wondered whether unmasking the blade sensor would risk 50/60Hz (x2) lighting flicker noise - but no issues. I cant see any downsides... others may of course prove me wrong... time will tell.

Yes, this also fully addresses the non-black guide blade issue - any type/colour of guide blade can be used. The modification switches off the side-facing IR LEDs effectively tricking the blade sensor into thinking a blade is permanently blocking the IR beam.

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Yes - using a functioning powerbase is far more fun than giving a hard stare towards a broken one :)

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Anyone else given this a try? all feedback welcome! for example... was it easy or difficult? and... did it work...? ie were the results positive? or... was it truly awful?

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Post below describes the IR LED positioning restriction for an unmodified ARC PRO... the above modification relaxes this restriction bringing performance in line with the APB C7042 in terms of flexibility of positioning of the IR LED.

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https://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=187947&p=2226501
Once we get past lock-down there is another variant of this mod to share which involves a small plug-in module and one solder point. This does the digital/analog switching automatically - no extra switch required. I have promised to send of these modules out to forum friends who have offered to test the mod. So hopefully I can update on this at some point over the summer :)

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This mod is only for ARC PRO... and it is intended to achieve similar performance as per the APB C7042 with v1.09 firmware.

The mod will work fine with both Hornby ARC app and Magic app. As mentioned the only down side is loss of analog mode - though that can be retained using a switch (as mentioned above) or using the small plug-in module which auto switches between digital and analog modes (still to be shared).

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Thanks Mr F :)
Hi Anders hope you enjoy the mod... and thanks to Gysse, and others, for helping with details... I think once you see precisely what the photos are showing... it should be straight forward... just two screws to remove to access the sensor board in question...

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... this also fully addresses the non-black guide blade issue - any type/colour of guide blade can be used. The modification switches off the side-facing IR LEDs effectively tricking the blade sensor into thinking a blade is permanently blocking the IR beam.
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Just one point of further clarification...

This mod addresses the non-black guide issue when used with the Magic app. It doesn't fully address the non-black guide issue when used with the official Hornby app. Apologies for any confusion on this point.

It doesnt fully address the use of non-black guide blades for the Hornby lap because this app uses the exit sensors (which are blade detect sensors)... these are read to re-enable lap counting after an ID detect to avoid double counting of laps. The Magic app uses a simpler timer algorithm to avoid double counting.

Also, when I mention non-black this is in recognition that non-black guides e.g. white/red/grey etc are often more transmissive to infra red (IR) i.e. they often dont function with IR blade detect sensors.

Please remember the main purpose of this mod is to relax the IR-LED-to-guide-blade positioning constraints of the stock ARC PRO (v0.3 and v0.4).

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Thanks Neillie for sharing your user perspective on this modification - very much appreciated. Has anyone else given this a try?

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Using this mod to switch the ARC PRO into APB-mode... four lane start/finish lines become possible... but with limitations...

Putting the sensor phototransistors in parallel collector-to-collector and emitter-to-emitter becomes possible with the ARC PRO to double up the number of lanes to four. The approach is exactly the same as often used for the APB. In the image below, 5 laps were recorded for each of the four lanes. I will do some high speed trials over the weekend to ensure the extra capacitance of four phototransistors in parallel does not significantly reduce the ID detection efficiency at speed.

So far it all seems to be working fine.

Next the limitations:

1/ The powerbase must be v0.4 or in the case of v0.3 only after making the 510 Ohm sensor circuit resistor swap-out.

2/ This four lane solution only functions with the Magic unofficial ARC app - not the Hornby ARC app. This is due to the latter using the exit blade sensors to avoid double counts.

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