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Bognor night 2009 championship kicks off on 8/1/09.

Classes will be;

1. Hornby NASCAR.
2. 60's front engined GT and sports cars - that's real front engined, the model can have it's motor elsewhere.
3. SCX 70's rally.
4. Ninco Vintage.
5. 60's Saloons.
6. Powersledge.

These classes will run on 22/1/09, 5/2/09 & 19/2/09.

Race fees are £5.

Visitors will be made welcome and loan cars can usually be found if advance warning is given. So if you fancy a go at club racing that is more about the "thrill of the dice" than who can build the fastest car with the stickiest tyres, drop me a PM.
 

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Last night for the current classes is this Thursday the 19th March.

New classes have been picked for the next set.

1. Hornby GT
2. Classic (Pre 85) 1.0 Touring cars
3. 4x4 Rally
4. 50's Saloons
5. Open GT
6. Ninco Vintage NC1

Dates are 2nd, 16th & 30th and 14th May.
 

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New classes picked last night.

1. Pre-67 Saloons up to 1600cc. Open class so scratchbuilts, resin kits and modified cars OK.
2. 50's LeMans. Again an open class to allow non-standard stuff a run.
3. Carrera Group 5. Any standard Carrera Porsche 934/5, Ferrari 512BB, Opel Commodore Jumbo, Chevy Monza or De Tomaso Pantera.
4. 2wd Rally. Any standard rally car driving only on one axle.
5. Modern F1. Mid 90's-ish onwards F1. Anything from Ninco F1s onwards really.
6. Hornby GT. Any standard modern Hornby GT car.

These are for meeting dates;

28th May, 11th & 25th June & 9th July.

Was great to see Sandy (Aerodynamic) back at the club again. Hope the long trip home was speedy and uneventful and we'll see you again soon.
 

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For the first time in ages the competitors numbered in double figures which meant the chances were much higher than normal of not getting your class pick for the next group. Despite being a bit hectic and some messing about with the lap counters, it was an enjoyable night and the lucky people who drew race numbers 1-6 came up with the following classes;

1. Fly GT
2. Japanese Sports Cars - Corrected to Japanese Rally Cars (see following post)
3. 60s LeMans
4. Porsches
5. Rally Raid
6. Hornby Scalextric 54-60 GP - Early RX + Power & Glory cars may be fitted with Ortmanns

Dates are 23rd July, 6th & 20th August and 3rd September.
 

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Correction to Class No.2.

This is now Japanese rally cars - Les wanted to run his Ninco "Tuning" Lancer Evo but as it wasn't in a rally livery thought he'd need to call it something else.
 

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Twelve racers for the latest picking night, meant there was only a 50% chance of your choice getting selected!

The classes for the next set falling on 17/9, 1/10, 15/10 & 29/10 are as follows;

1. Ninco GT - Any standard issue GT car from Ninco from the Porsche 911/934 to date. No Pro-race versions.
2. 60's Saloons up to 1600 - Any standard model from any manufacturer of a saloon car no larger than 1600cc made in the 60's.
3. Open Saloons - Any saloon car, modified to taste!
4. Modern LM - Prototype LeMans cars from 1990 onwards from any manufacturer. Standard class.
5. GT2 - Any manufacturer's GT2 cars. This is our old GT2 class that was mostly made up of Proslot Ferraris and Porsches. Other makes are allowed, Vipers, Venturis, Saleens etc.
6. SCX LeMans - Any LeMans car from SCX, prototype or GT.

A noticable backlash against the classic classes we have seen so much of this year, with only the 60's saloons from that genre.

Remember that a car can only be used in one class on the night.

Jim
 

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Yes, got the PM Sandy.

Added bonus of allowing the SRS2 cars is the club has 4 that the newbs can use if they don't want to buy their own!

See you Thursday,

Jim
 

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Looks good enough to me, Peter.

That first link is interesting though. When Aurelius picked the class he asked me if his Fly Saleen was a GT2 car as that's what he wanted to race. That link gives it as a GT1 car.

I think the problem lies with the classifications getting shifted around by the race organisers. When we first started to use the real categories as class definitions the GT1s were protoype cars like the Toyota GT1, Porsche 911GT1 etc, GT2 was modified GT cars like the 911 GT2, Saleen etc and GT3 was for nearer standard road going GT cars.

So I suppose it's best to call it GT2/3. Or keep it at GT2 and allow any car that's ever had that classification under the old or new rules.

I'm also keen to clarify the tyre situation for the next set of classes. I will check with the people who picked so there is no confusion when we start to race.

For now though, I can confirm that the Ninco GT and Modern LeMans prototype classes are for absolutely box stock cars with the tyres they are supplied with. That also excludes any Pro Race Ninco. Obviously Kevin's Open saloon class by definition means you can run any tyres you prefer.
 

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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Ok Sandy, I'll let the others know.

Will we be seeing you at Goodwood at all over the weekend?
 

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Let's say, for now, it's current GT1, old and new GT2, and old GT3.

So no old GT1s, Porsche, Toyota etc, but virtually any other RTR post 1990 GT car.

Except Saleens


Just kidding
 

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Last picking night of the year has now passed and the final classes are as follows;

1. SCX Classic (Pre 85) 2wd Rally
2. Ninco Vintage
3. 70's F1
4. NASCAR
5. 1/24 excluding F1
6. BTCC

Dates are 12th & 26th November and 10th December. The following meeting falls on christmas eve, so is provisionally cancelled at the moment, but could be run if there is enough interest.

QUOTE (aerodynamic @ 20 Oct 2009, 10:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>PS Did you ever go to Russ (the Battersea Rise model shop)?

Not yet, but I will be going past again on Thursday. In my truck as always, so not easy to park anywhere close by.
 

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Sandy, they have to be standard RTR cars, but you can go back through the history of BTCC. SD1s, Sierras, E30 BMWs or more modern machinery such as Seat Leons, Astra coupes and Peugeot 406 Coupe (but not the Silhouette version).
 

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Discussion Starter · #21 ·
Next years first classes picked last night.

So for the 7th & 21st January and 4th & 18th February we will be mostly racing;

  1. Formula Libre - Anything goes - almost!
  2. Group B Rally - Any make
  3. Rally Raid - Any make
  4. Group C - Any make
  5. Carrera DTM - self explanatory?
  6. 60's F1 - Any make except powersledge models.

Off we go again
 

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Discussion Starter · #23 ·
Guilty as charged on the second class, Peter.

And as for the fifth one, there's always the possibility it was the same sadist. Who'd had his van fixed!
 

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Discussion Starter · #26 ·
That would be because I didn't announce them!

Here they are.

  1. Hornby GT
  2. Cartrix GP
  3. Daytona Prototype
  4. Hornby LMP
  5. JWRC
  6. 60's Italian Supercars
 

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Hornby GT was Les' pick, I think he runs a Trans Am Jag, so assume it is them for now.

This Daytona Protoype thing has me confused. I had assumed this was the two ugly cars made by Fly and one similar by Racer. There's a Daytona in Spain now??

Cartrix GP is just for Cartrix cars. There are no club cars available. It was pointed out to the person who picked them that this was a bit specific, especially as they are a £60 retail slotcar. Ironic that the same person then claimed they wouldn't be coming, because they weren't prepared to buy a £25 retail Daytona Prototype.


I'm a bit miffed about it at the moment, and am starting to think it could be the end of the democratically picked classes. Rather than give people the chance to have some input perhaps Tony has the right idea, using the benevolent dictatorship principle!

Either that, or we try to agree
on 49 classes and whatever the lottery numbers are on the night before are what we race on Thursday!
 

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Talking to Karl tonight, he was wanting the JWRC class to mirror the one we have just chosen for Tony's club. Basically it's a combination SS1600/JWRC class with a spec motor allowance of SCX cans or Ninco NC1.

The cars Sandy listed are Ok as long as either of the spec motors can be fitted with available brackets. The later Nincos - Clios, Puntos & Saxos - can have NC1s with adaptors fitted and the earlier Clios, 306s and Meganes are allowed as they come. Then there is also the same Megane and the Ibiza from SCX to add to the list. SCX have never yet produced a Saxo to my knowledge.

The Corsa should fit in with this class, I'll have to check, but I think mine is a sidewinder with a Scalextric/Fly type small Mabuchi, so not sure if it will be able to take an NC1.

The Polo I think has a Boxer NC2/5 type motor so probably can take an NC1 with brackets.
 

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Don't buy anything just yet Sandy.

One solution may be to "swap" picks between me and Geoff. I also picked a 50's GP class as I wanted to run my recently acquired Cartrix D50, but I also allowed the recent similar cars from Hornby because I know Kev and Dave already have those and they are available at more reasonable prices for those that don't have one. (Hint - Kev's came from Modelzone for under £20)

As he drew the lowest card he got his first pick and we used my second pick - Hornby LMP. If we change them around there will be no Hornby LMP and Geoff's second choice was "under 2-litre saloons" which will also be easier for the new boys as they have Cortinas and Escorts already.

Let's discuss it next week and see if we can reach a mutually acceptable compromise.
 

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Just to confirm that we are still running the original 6 classes this week. Despite what the little fixture lists say, the first night being cancelled due to the weather means we carry on for one more meeting and the new classes (whatever they are) will start on the 18th of March.
 

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Discussion Starter · #42 ·
OK! Diplomatic negotiations were a success and the next set of classes are confirmed as;
  1. Hornby GT
  2. Sub 2-litre Saloons
  3. Fly GT
  4. 50's GP
  5. JWRC/SS1600
  6. 60's Italian Supercars

Dates are

18th March
1st, 15th, & 29th April

Notes

Fly GT excludes Racer versions.
50's GP is just Cartrix and recent Hornby models only.
JWRC/SS1600 is just for SCX or NC1 powered cars.

Can anybody think of anything RTR other than 250GTO and Muira for the last class? I know Fly have got an Alfa TZ coming, but don't think it will be out in this time frame.
 
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