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Boycott the Revo Grp 2 ?

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#1 ·
Me and a few slot mates not looking at all to buy the new Revo category, anyone else feel the same ? I know at least one club I run with have zero interest in running this new grp 2 category....

They had a good thing with GT1 and GT2 cars, still had loads more to do. More open top mates for the Ferrari 333 to run with and more Jap friends with the skyline and Honda NSX to run with the Supra.

Really not into BMW and Alfa's !
 
#3 ·
RevoSlot isn't the only brand. Branch out a bit. ;)
If only everyone's personal favorite brand did all their personal favorite cars. They'd probably all go out of business. ;)
 
#6 · (Edited)
We will buy them. For me the Jager Escort looks like a winner and the blue Alfa looks different enough to catch the eye.
These are iconic little race cars a mate owned an Escort and always lusted after an Alfa. I have the SCX / Scalextric and Fly offerings but I am not that fond of how the SCX and Scalextric Escort handle, the Fly Alfa is ok but I look forward to having something some cars that run well. It will be a nice change.
 
#9 ·
Nice to see a gradual diversion from manufactures into other than GT3 territory.

Revos are probably just about the biggest dividers of opinion on the slot scene in recent times, totally marmite, out of twenty regular members at our club, four of us have four Revos each, another member one only, we run on a non club night every eight weeks, as crash and Marshall yourself.

Of the five of us I'm the only one who will be going down the group 2 route, so I'll be restricted to running in free practice at the club and on my 50 foot four lane Ninco in the roof, but I'm happy with that.

Revo are to be applauded at group 2 saloons as it's a newish area, they will be better runners than both Fly and Scaley offerings, also by picking some Trans Am entered Alfa's it might tempt the guys stateside.
Group 2 is also a growth area for Scaley, as the popularity of the Goodwood Historic races under the Gerry Marshall moniker seems to be growing.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of the handling characteristics, Scaley have recently introduced some good looking saloons, that have graced the previous incarnation of the British touring car championship of the eighties and the Spa 24 hours before it was GT3.

Capri mk 3, SD1 Rover, impact bumper Camaro, 70 Hemi Cuda, plenty of liveries there for Simon, also nice to see that the Tobacco liveries are being featured.

So a mix of Scaley and Revo group 2 saloons is welcome by me, add in the SRC mark 1 Capri and it's a great grid.

If you wanted to go really left field, then the touring cars of the early seventies threw up some interesting choices ,Moscovitch and Opel Commodore GSE, spring to mind, but no one in their right mind is going there.

Couple of cars that have potential imho are the mk 2 Jag, surely on Simon's longer term radar, think of Morse and Police car opportunities there, also a proper narrow body 911s .

As ever Revo equals marmite.
 
#10 ·
Shame that people haven't embraced them at your club. We are all in on the BRM Mini Saloons/Grp 2 and the Revoslot cars and race them regularly. Not sure how many of the group will buy the Grp 2 cars but imagine there will be a few. Where I am at in my slot car collecting these days is mostly 1/24. With the 1/32 cars I tend to buy only a few, Scalextric mainly the novelty cars, Carrera a couple of liveries in the GT3 have caught my eye, Policar the new Ferrari was a must buy as will the 512m, but with Revoslot I have to rein myself in - I would just about buy every car they look spectacular and they are a lot of fun to drive. Usually they take very little tuning to get good results but occasionally they need some serious correcting tuning. :)
 
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#23 ·
Which rubber do you use in the revo cars?
I agree with you that out of the box with little tuning they go ok...meaning that the do not deslot at every corner as an out-of-the-box magless scalex or carrera.
But to be honest, I found them very noisy to a point at is unpleasant to drive them around and the rear tyres are not that good on scalex (I do not know what shore they come in the box).
 
#11 ·
No slot car manufacturer can stick to one specific theme for their entire range. As Revoslot produce more and more GT1, GT2 cars the sales of each new release will slowly decline. Some collectors will undoubtedly continue to buy each new release but those of us who buy to race will reach a point where we have enough cars for a class and won't buy more until the ones we already have become uncompetitive.

Every slot car company needs to look for new markets so by diversifying into saloons Revoslot are helping guarantee the future of the company and the profit from saloons just might allow them to look at making more GT1/GT2 cars as well so potentially evryone will benefit.

Would I buy the Group 2 cars? - possibly. I love the cars but they would have to be competitive in our club saloons class but I would also buy Scalex saloons and put new chassis under them if the cost was viable.
Would I buy Revoslot GT1/GT2 cars? - Maybe. I am more interested in the Group C era but if Revoslot were competitive in our modified GT class I would look at buying one although at present I already have a couple of competitive modified GT cars (Mcla5ren F1 and Ferrari F40) and a limited budget so more modified GTs is not a priority.

I accept that I won't like every new release from every manufacturer but someone out there will like the cars which don't appeal to me so I buy cars I like and can afford which can be made competitive for our club classes and respect that others have the right to buy what ever they find appealing.
 
#13 ·
Theres the another odd fact, I can’t understand why some cars are released by many brands, even when they know they were released with some success, for example, the F40(Policar, Fly and now Revo), the McLaren F1Gtr(Slot it, MrSlotcar, Fly and now Revo), the 333(Scx, Fly, Revo and now MrSlotcar), just to name a few, why not try a diferent model that hasn’t been released at all.
That’s why I applause the efforts of small brands like Blackarrow and the 458, or SRC (well now it’s not so small) and the Toyota , the A71, and a few others.

Cheers
 
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Theres the another odd fact, I can’t understand why some cars are released by many brands, even when they know they were released with some success, for example, the F40(Policar, Fly and now Revo), the McLaren F1Gtr(Slot it, MrSlotcar, Fly and now Revo), the 333(Scx, Fly, Revo and now MrSlotcar), just to name a few, why not try a diferent model that hasn’t been released at all.
Cheers
It is for exactly the same reason that almost every plastic kit manufacturer makes a kit of the Spitfire. The F40 and Mclaren are iconic cars with potentially huge sales so many manufacturers will want their share of those sales and the profits then allow them to look at making cars which are a bit less popular.
 
#15 ·
My Revo Toyota GT one isn't allowed in the same heat as all plastic cars in our open GT class.
I've argued vociferously, but to no avail, that it ran last year, when it was called Le Man's class and it didn't have/cause a single accident that led to damage to a slot it, NSR or Scaleauto.

The irony that LMP cars are allowed in the open GT, that's GT, is somewhat lost on those who make the rules, but then again one of the rulemakers thinks a Joest 956 is a Newman Haas car and that the pink Italyasport 962 is team pink pig, so you can see it's an uphill battle.

The turbonutter cars with 26,000 RS motors run at about 6.9 seconds, my Toyota that as standard weighs a ton, and has the standard weedy 21.5 motor, runs at 7.4/7.5, but in a regular two minutes and thirty seconds heat doesn't come off, which means it regularly outperforms its potential, I enjoy running it, it's something different than the usual fare.
Revoslot equals marmite.
 
#19 ·
Something similar happens with the 3dp chasis, many people (who make the rules) think that just fitting a 3dp chasis you’ll end up winning(probably the Olifer fame scares them), but the true is that a winning car with a 3dp chasis requires a lot more than just the chasis, as has been shown by guys like Tamar; in my case most of my 3dp fitted cars are models that otherwise will perform very low or in some cases, can’t even run lap without desloting, thus 3dp is a must to at least run properly. I think something similar happens to Revo chasis, people often think that such metal chasis will give it a winning edge when in reality it only gives it a good regular pace.
Cheers
 
#17 ·
Would I buy a Grp 2, well yes... I think they are cool looking little cars. Will my local group want to race them as a class, probably not. That still wouldn't stop me if I saw a livery that I think is cool.

I also, like the BRM 1/24 Grp 2 cars, but with the price point and not to be raced any time with the locals stops me.
Different classes of cool looking cars is what makes this hobby enjoyable. FYI, I am not a racing historian, just like to tinker and play with my toys.
 
#18 ·
I don't understand the problem. It's not like they're going to quit making the GT2 cars, are they? As I see it they're increasing their product line and they do it with the most desirable cars there is. Bring on the on the 70' s Alfas, Fords and BMW:s. Will buy a lot of them...
 
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#21 ·
Revoslot hmm i don't own any complete cars have bought the 333 Ferrari body and a 3d chassis for it , fitted it with a ball race pod and Pirana 25 k ballrace motor .
My mate has a couple and my hybrid leaves them for dead , but i have noticed my sort of cars ain't allowed to run at many clubs , good job i have my own club or i can't run this rocket.

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#25 ·
DTM is GT3, British GT is GT3 mostly, World challenge GT is GT3, hence Scaley, ,Carrera, NSR, Slot it, SCX and Sideways want some of the action, which is understandable.
The very bottom line of any slot manufacturer has to be livery possibilities from the expensive mould, having this many championships to go at is a very strong draw for them.
SRC going TS50 and 919 is a brave move given the limited liveries available I think.
 
#28 ·
If you put like that then carrera and scalex do plenty of "odd" and "old" cars. Not to mention some brave moves as well that go no where.
But looking closely, and I know that I keep saying this, most of these models are more than a couple of years old.
To be honest, and this is my personal view, the only manufacturer that is really pushing on the GT3 in 1/32 is Sideways, followed by Scaleauto, Slot.it and NSR.
Just to be clear, I am talking about releasing current (as current as they can be) models.

About SRC, I really do not understand these "brave" moves: why do you invest so much on models that would at best give you a couple of livery?
Why not starting with the DPi cars: these look really nice, there are at least 3 different makers (cadillac, mazda, acura), and if the dimensions are right can be raced in LMP classes mixed with GT3 cars. Once you make enough money from these, then you can dare more and do more ambitious projects.
My impression is that most manufacturers have no clue of what current racing is going on...

Now, if we are looking at something modern and interesting, (W)TCR would be a nice class to look at.
If Slot.it made them I would buy 3 of every livery/model they make.
 
#26 ·
I have been disenfranchised!! :mad:

Why no, 'I love Revoslot's concept and will buy anything they make, that I like, regardless'?

I hope they haven't abandoned the Nineties as I did see them as the strongest candidate for an NSX but I'm game for more heavy metal from Revo - and our club doesn't run them as a class. Yet. :unsure:
 
#29 ·
Personally, I am just into cars, and my interests cover a wide variety from 1950's to modern day.
The planned Revo Escort/Alfa/BMW are of high interest to me.
I have several Revo Cars for home use, I tend to run a little more chassis float, but otherwise bog stock.
Boycott ? sounds a bit political. The more manufactures making wider varieties, the better for all enthusiasts I say.
 
#30 ·
The new Porsche badged Lmdh will be a good starting point for more modern cars, hopefully Revo might consider this.

Porsche has two factory cars in IMSA and two in WEC planned for 2023.

They have announced yesterday plans to manufacture and support a maximum of four customer cars for 2023 as well.

That's an eight car build across at least four teams, possibly more, if the private teams are single entries, no mention of sponsorship has been made yet for either the works IMSA or WEC teams, so it could end up as one livery across four factory/Penske cars or not.

A couple of years ago Maurizio showed an Alpine LMP2 car, think it was a bodyshell on loan from someone like sv worx, so it looks like a LMP2 Oreca is in there longer term plans, absolutely shed loads of livery possibilities there.
 
#32 ·
Me and a few slot mates not looking at all to buy the new Revo category, anyone else feel the same ? I know at least one club I run with have zero interest in running this new grp 2 category....
I seem to recall you were boycotting Scaleauto. You guys seem to be very boycotty.
Me, I am boycotting the boycotts, sadly that wasn't a choice in the poll :rolleyes:


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