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BRM V16 continuation:

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It'll be good to be able to hear one of the best sounding engines ever, again:

https://www.collierautomedia.com/the-brm-v16-roars-again

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John
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Great car that but also a very good car site which I hadn't seen before. Duly bookmarked.
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Fascinating commitment to reproducing or continuing the BRM V16. As I’ve mentioned on another thread, my dad used to play me an LP with different recordings of racing car engines, the BRM V16 stood out as the most magnificent sounding engine I’ve ever heard. What a fascinating engine and interesting story.
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There are now so many copies of famous GP cars in existence that a new Championship series could begin. Could be fun, too, and refreshing.
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But would any of their billionaire owners want to risk their 'investment' by racing them, or having others race them?
Yes. I'm sure they would. They race originals no holds barred, so replicas would be no problem. There is plenty enough money about, just look at the Goodwood grids.
"Investment" in some cases is probably just an excuse for many of them to buy expensive toys and probably wrangle the money from somewhere to buy and run them. (I knew someone who ran a domestic race team for a multinational company owning billionare)
I suspect that they have already agreed sales on all these reproductions and I'm sure that some of the buyers will want to run their cars at selected race meetings, these people can afford it from their petty cash.

My memory is hazy but back in the 1990s I snapped Nick Mason trying to coax the BRM into life at a Coys Historic Festival at Silverstone.

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As I say my memory of the meeting isn't good but Mason's race was very wet and I remember him popping and banging through Copse on one lap and I think he then retired the car, sadly the engine note was far from glorious that day.... I can't find my photo of him on that lap at the moment but I'll see if I can find it.

David

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When Tony Merrick rebuilt Nick Mason's V16, he discovered a design fault with the front pair of cylinders, which had never been cooled properly. This, apparently, was one (of many) reasons for the BRM's lack of reliability.

Tony made small modifications, so at least all 16 cylinders were cooled, more or less, equally.
A day at Silverstone in 1987 when a V16 did several laps without breaking down.

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Very good feature article by Doug Nye in the latest Motor Sport about the car - he seems not to have been impressed, by the project or the result. I believe Moss was similarly unimpressed. It seems to have been designed for power rather than drivability.
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Moss always described the V16 as the worst car he ever drove.
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Thank you John for finding the link about a replica BRM V16.I seem to have many recollections about these noisy monsters. My Motor Year Book of 1950 has a hopelessly optimistic article by the famous Laurence Pomeroy who seems obsessed by two parameters, piston area and piston speed. Completely forgot about the need for ease of repair under the pressure of racing conditions. On holiday in August 1952 a chance encounter with a certain Mr Walker revealed all the chaos of the BRM setup in particular the dilettante tastes of Raymond Mays who insisted on doing a show in London every week. I listened to Raymond Mays interviewed on Desert Island Discs and concluded that would not want this guy running anything for me, I found this broadcast on BBC archive the other day. I saw and heard the MkII at Snetterton in 1955 but I was more impressed by the beautiful simplicity of the rear engined Cooper Climax. I modelled the MkII as a slot car with a Pittman DC60, brakes were nonexistent. As my friend Joel Gonin is an avid collector and BRM fan I feel another project coming on! I also met Alfred Owen in Manchester in early 1962, at last he had good reason to be optimistic. But you have to have a weird streak to love the marque.
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Gerald

A late chum of mine knew Mays quite well, and described him as: "A big-headed bu%%er."

By reputation, Mays was a chap who was reluctant to veer from the unshakeable belief in his own ability and invincibility. Although he listened to others, he generally ignored opinion that was at variance with his own.

The V16 was (arguably) ahead of its time, while Mays was not, which is just one of the problems endured by the long-suffering Alfred Owen all those years ago.
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Seems we are all agreed about Raymond then. Forgot to write that my cousin, Jock Huggins, did an apprenticeship at Daimler Coventry and had a few reject conrods from the V16. I guess the Japanese motor bike manufacturers have a more corporate approach to success.
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The first of the three new V16s is to be fired into life this weekend, reportedly, and a video of the occasion is to be posted on BRM's website.

Hall & Hall who built the car, in Lincolnshire, have apparently recorded 550bhp on the dyno.
Bit of an oxymoron ^^^ there. :wacko:

How can it have already been dyno'd if it has yet to be "fired into life"?
I suspect the engine has been run several times. Today's online report probably means that the car will run for the first time with the engine in situ.
I suspect the engine has been run several times. Today's online report probably means that the car will run for the first time with the engine in situ.
I know. I was being my usual pedantic self. Now, where's the "I'll get my coat" emoticon?
Stu

I think that the vid of the V16 running is released this Sunday. I will have my headphones ready.
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