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Before I start, I should mention that all 4 of my Scalextric cars are (probably) over 15 years old - and the last time I had a Scalextric set IIRC it was Triang and Magnetraction hadn't been thought of yet.

The secondhand Scalextric set I bought a couple of months ago came with a pair of 1990s F1 cars (Williams Renault/Benetton Renault), a Laguna BTCC car and a Megane rally car (the set was Renault branded). The set had had little use and the first time I used it I didn't even bother cleaning the rails, so the cars ought to be barely run-in. The F1 cars aren't too bad on the track, especially since I fitted silicon tyres, but the two saloons tail-slide all over the place and are noisy. TBH I was reasonably happy with it all and I thought that if I put some decent tyres on the saloons all would be fine.

Then yesterday I thought I'd start adding to my collection of cars. I bought the SCX Morgan Aero 8 and Porsche 997. To say they blew me away is an understatement. If anything, the magnets are too strong! These two cars lapped over 1 second quicker than the Scalextric F1s straight out of the box!! Has slot car technology really improved that much over the last 15, or so, years? OK, so the SCX cars aren't perfect but they are far better than I had expected. I can't wait to get another pair now.
(I want the Talbot Sunbeam Lotus and a mkII Escort next, but I've got a seven week wait for them) My "wanted" list is something like 60/40 Scalextric/SCX, but now I may have to change that and make it more SCX-biased.

Now, I'm loathe to give-up on my Scalextric cars - particularly as the plan was to have plenty of cars so that I don't get too bored with the whole slot car scene too quickly. My Scalextric magnets do still have some "pull", but nowhere near the same as my new SCX cars. So..... Can I get stronger magnets for the Scalextric cars? Or are they likely to just need new standard ones? Do the magnets deteriorate with age, even if the cars don't get much use? I've seen magnets on eBay, but haven't yet taken much notice of them. Any recommendations of good ones, or ones to avoid?

Actually, the SCX cars came with the magnets in the down position and I've adjusted them up. I tried the cars with no magnets and they were worse on the track than the Scalextric cars.


TIA
Stuart.
 

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Thanks for the replies chaps.


QUOTE (PJF @ 29 Apr 2011, 07:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your magnets in the older cars do wear out & changing them for new ones should be an easy job, ebay is a good source.
Time to start looking for new magnets, then. I've got a few other slot items I want off eBay so I'll probably have a look this evening, while Wor Lass is watching the soaps - if I can tear myself away from the attic!

QUOTE (PJF @ 29 Apr 2011, 07:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How come the long wait for the escort & sunbeam?
Birthday! Wor Lass is getting them for me.


QUOTE (PJF @ 29 Apr 2011, 07:56) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont know if the sale is still on but modelzone is/was selling both of them cars for £20 each. Im going to the metro centre today & will report back after I have spent a fortune.
The sale was still on yesterday, it was MetroCentre I got my new cars from.
 

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I've spent some more time in the attic this morning.


How do the magnets come out? I've measured the length and width as best as I can (25x8mm) but what about the thickness?

I'm in the process of doing some back-to-back lap timing. I'll post the results later.
 

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QUOTE (356speedster @ 29 Apr 2011, 15:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>On the SCX cars you can adjust the magnet pull by adjusting the two screws on the magnet holder under the car.

To get more magnet pull loosen the screws (but not so much that the holder starts to rub on the track).
I hadn't realised that.


QUOTE (356speedster @ 29 Apr 2011, 15:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To get less magnet pull, screw the whole magnet holder with the magnet out of the car, turn the holder 180 degrees and re-assemble. This allows the magnet holder to be adjusted further into the chassis, hence making the magnet effect weaker.
I had realised that, but thanks for adding it.


QUOTE (356speedster @ 29 Apr 2011, 15:47) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Does your Scalextric cars have brown or shiny magnets? I suspect you got cars with the old weak brown magnets mounted under the chassis, if so then there are no direct replacement magnets to buy, but you can always hotglue a new type magnet inside the chassis to increase the magnetic pull.
They have the brown magnets.

QUOTE (StuBeeDoo @ 29 Apr 2011, 12:27) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm in the process of doing some back-to-back lap timing. I'll post the results later.

I don't know if anyone's remotely interested, but here goes anyway........

First session. 20 laps. All cars run on lane 2 using the same hand controller.

Scalextric F1 cars. Totally standard, with the exception of Scalextric Sport silicon rear tyres.
Williams. Best lap 7.8sec. 7 de-slots
Benetton. Best lap 7.7sec. 4 de-slots

Scalextric Saloons. Totally standard. New Scalextric 11mm grooved rubber tyres.
Megane. Best lap 8.6sec. 11 de-slots
Laguna. Best lap 8.8sec. 8 de-slots

SCX GT3s. Standard. Magnets in highest position.
Porsche. Best lap 8.0sec. 2 de-slots
Morgan. Best lap 8.1sec. 6 de-slots

I then decided to see if I could quieten the saloons in particular and make them run a bit smoother. I don't know if I should have done this, but all 4 Scalextric cars got WD40 in the rear axle bearings and the motor shaft bushes.

Second session. 20 laps. All cars run on lane 2 using the same hand controller.

Scalextric F1 cars.
Williams. Best lap 7.6sec. 4 de-slots
Benetton. Best lap 7.4sec. 2 de-slots

Scalextric Saloons.
Megane. Best lap 8.5sec. 5 de-slots
Laguna. Best lap 8.5sec. 7 de-slots

SCX GT3s.
Porsche. Best lap 7.8sec. 1 de-slot
Morgan. Best lap 8.1sec. 7 de-slots

Third session. 20 laps. All cars run on lane 2 using the same hand controller.

Scalextric Saloons. Now with (badly fitting) Scalectric Sport silicon 8mm wide slicks on rear.
Megane. Best lap 8.3sec. 5 de-slots
Laguna. Best lap 8.1sec. 2 de-slots

SCX GT3s. Magnets now in lowest position.
Porsche. Best lap 7.3sec. 3 de-slots
Morgan. Best lap 7.2sec. 5 de-slots

TBH, I'm not sure what all this means but it's given me something to do while Wor Lass has been at work.


I think I've decided to do nothing more until I've tried the urathene(sp?) tyres on the Megane and Laguna. Depending on the results of that experiment, I'll then decide if I'm going to buy new magnets for all the Scalextric cars or more of Paul's tyres to go on the F1 cars.
 

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Thanks for the advice. ^^^^^
QUOTE (PJF @ 29 Apr 2011, 18:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The lap times look ok, but the amount of de-slots seam a bit much mate. Are you pushing very hard when your racing? Yes, I do push hard. I don't think I've had one 20 lap yet where I haven't de-slotted. I need to learn to slow down.
 

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I've (almost) got the hang of not de-slotting now.
I've had several races where the Pacer hasn't de-slotted at all and the race car only has when I've tried too hard to lap the Pacer.

Sorry, but I also have more questions..........

I've seen mention on the forum of certain "mis-matched" guide blades needing to be filed-down. Does this normally apply to SCX cars used on Scalextric Classic track? The reason I ask is that my SCX cars are giving a lot of "clatter" when lapping. I don't want to be filing un-necessarily as I've been having enough trouble with de-slotting without making things worse for myself.

Secondly, the braids on the SCX cars having both ends on the rails. What's that all about?

Another "what's that all about?"...... I've seen posts of WD40 on the tyres. Is this on rubber, silicon or either? What does it achieve? I'd have thought that it would make the tyres too slippery. What am I missing here?

Track cleaning. What's the best stuff to clean the rails and also the plastic? TBH I really ought to start upgrading to new Sport track, but it will have to be done a section at a time so I don't want to be contaminating the new stuff with rubbish from the old.

Again, TIA
Stuart.
 

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At this point, I'd like to thank everyone here for their input. I'm learning fast and you're all helping me to enjoy the hobby even more than I thought I would.

Heroes, every one of you.


...And as for the ^^^ book - I'll be adding one to my birthday present list, along with the 4 cars I want.
 

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Today's lesson has been;-
"The Importance Of Keeping Your Car's Tyres Clean"
I may not need new magnets after all.


I noticed that both new SCX cars were starting to slide a bit and happened to notice the rear tyres had a "film" on already, so I wiped them off. While doing it, I thought "Maybe I should do the others again, while I'm at it".
Transformation time! The lap times I posted yesterday aren't worth Jack anymore. The one thing I didn't do to the cars during those tests was clean the tyres. D'OH! Even the "slidy" Laguna on it's grooved rubber tyres is a good second quicker after wiping the tyres with Electrical Contact Cleaner. (I'm still experimenting with different cleaners for different uses.) Next time, I might try Meths, unless anyone can give me a reason not to.

I need to get in the habit of cleaning all the tyres before every session, I think. The trouble is that although I've cleaned the "eBay bargain" track, I don't have a clue what's been run on (or done to) it.
 

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QUOTE (loosesalute @ 29 Apr 2011, 23:11) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sport track is very smooth & gives very little grip to the old non mag cars.It`s a matter of opinion, but I reckon the old classic track is far superior to the modern stuff.
Interesting comment Kev. I had planned to gradually upgrade my track to brand new Sport, using adaptors, because some of the pieces I bought off eBay aren't very good. Now I'm not so sure.
Cheers
Stuart.
 
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