Champions League Round 4 at Oxford 4/3/12

QUOTE no I mean motors. Abbo wants their members to save money and they insist on ninco which are really the most expensive for what they are. There are better motors that cost less than his club rules state!

A slightly twisted, third-hand, Chinese whispers rumour that you have quoted AS you know in order to please the majority you have to make sacrifices and what might be really best.

Parma Economy controllers rule!!!! I use a 35ohm virtually everywhere and also take a 25 just in case. The economy ones never break - the turbo versions can be problematic. However, someone let me "feel" (oooo eeeerrrr) their electronic controller the other day and I must say it was the business. Not convinced that you don't get extra speed on the straight though (or I should think extra acceleration so that you get to top speed quicker).

Mr Slot32 - re the Macs... I was using them as an example. People are saying you should buy an electronic controller because they are better, they do you're ironing and take the dog for a walk etc etc and they can't understand why everyone doesn't use them. The Apple Mac is a super-fast machine, doesn't get viruses (I think we've had two in the past ten years), hardly ever crashes, has a brilliant display, they're easy to upgrade, they don't get bloated with add-ons and start slowing down blah blah blah... AND if you're really mad, you can run Windows on them as well. Even the Mac version of Microsoft Office is a year ahead of the Windows version... so I cannot understand why the whole world doesn't use them .

(Please, no mass debate about Windows v Apple - I was just using the scenario as a counter example).

I would love a digital controller of some kind, I would also love to have Championship rounds of Cartrix Formula 1 at Nascot and have 20 lap races instead of 15... but we have a system whereby the voice of the members must be heard, and it's not just me on the committee.

Marc

QUOTE I must say when I did do the round of the champions league , it only took a few hours to sort of get used to a standard throttle again after not touching one for 5 years or so

I must say that the electronic controller I tried would be brilliant for my dodgy hand in an endurance race... I tend to get cramp in the top of my hand after about 45mins, mainly due to the fact that a certain individual stabbed me with a scalpel around 20 years ago and it's never been the same since. They are deffo nice to use

A bit concerned that a driver of your calibre would need a few hours to get used to a normal controller again

M

QUOTE (abbo @ 8 Mar 2012, 11:01) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Phil - that "design" logo under your name looks like you've re-discovered Macromedia Freehand version 8 with the add-on vector package. Now that was a good programme - much better than Illustrator!

M

I still have Freehand! but using Illustrator at work, bit of a bummer when converting files from Freehand to Illustrator, tends to make far to many layers for my liking!

Playing around with Illustrator to keep my eye in as we don't use it a lot at work, last lot I did was for our recycling section, sample below.

QUOTE (zendragon @ 8 Mar 2012, 11:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As a complete computer numpty, I am envious of yous guys I wish I had half the computer skills you have.
Phil you have missed the point slightly. the cars are supplied by the hosting club therefore requiring no setup or alteration, so they are optomized by the club thus providing an equal playing field for all compeditors.

Zen
...just using the setup as an example to highlight that using none standard controllers doesn't make much difference.

I understand the club providing the cars bit.

ttfn

QUOTE (fw14b @ 8 Mar 2012, 18:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not B/S at all Ken. We are way behind the rest of Europe in our racing ability. Another reason is lack of decent plexi tracks.

I am relitively new to racing (less than 1yr), but have been part of the hobby for a while

High cost electronic controllers are off putting for newbies, so they start with somthing cheaper. My only and first controller is the basic NSR electronic one with a brake pot and 25/45 ohm toggle switch which was £40 from swindon so not all electronic controls have to cost the earth.

It used this in the west london round, at this time i didnt even know it was classed as an electronic controller. so sorry about that i won't use it again, i came last anyway i believe.

I do think the champions league is a good series and the contoller rule does make for closer racing. You don't always have to use the top technology to have good close racing. NASCARS for example dont have fuel injection or in car computers, all data is releyed through a headset. and is one of the biggest racing series in the world.

Ill sort out some more cake, dont worry chaps haha!

QUOTE I am relitively new to racing (less than 1yr), but have been part of the hobby for a while

High cost electronic controllers are off putting for newbies, so they start with somthing cheaper. My only and first controller is the basic NSR electronic one with a brake pot and 25/45 ohm toggle switch which was £40 from swindon so not all electronic controls have to cost the earth.

It used this in the west london round, at this time i didnt even know it was classed as an electronic controller. so sorry about that i won't use it again, i came last anyway i believe.

There you go, you have a cheap "electronic" throttle which no one picked up on and raced without realising it wasn't a standard throttle..

...case closed.

Phil once again the devil is in the detail, it is not an electronic controller but it does have switches that allow for alternate setup, not allowed.
Graham has a controller that you can change the resistors on, but you have to remove them first, allowed.
There is a myth that electronic controllers are all singing all dancing items that increase your speed, they dont, they give an advantage in breaking you dont have to wait for the wiper to travel the length of the resistor before get full brakes and these can be adjusted, they can be setup to limit wheel spin via resistance settings on the power supply, so appear to give you more speed, they dont, and as far as I know none of them have a capacitors on board.
We could eliminate all problems as far as these controllers are concerned by running all tracks using very large batteries.
Regards
Zen

This is getting boring............