Crash and Burn Racing
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i voted dependant on circumstances,
i try to go as close as i feel comfortable with to the limit, but then if there is only 1 or 2 laps to go and there is no one behind me and i am a reasonable distance from the car in front i will push as hard as i can
i try to go as close as i feel comfortable with to the limit, but then if there is only 1 or 2 laps to go and there is no one behind me and i am a reasonable distance from the car in front i will push as hard as i can
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Nothing worse than having to race your fav' F1 whilst also pondering as to which barrier the " Slot car challenged doofus" your about to lap for the third time is going to bounce off.
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Just one other point in regards marshalling, how often have you seen the guy who causes the crash be instantly, almost magically reslotted by a marshall, and then the guy who got pole-axed have his race leading car held aloft of the track until they establish which lane he was in??( insert Pommy accent here" take all the time you want lads, quite alright, hate to trouble you too much,... )
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Still think Hornby should sanction the use of six shooters at a club level.
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Just one other point in regards marshalling, how often have you seen the guy who causes the crash be instantly, almost magically reslotted by a marshall, and then the guy who got pole-axed have his race leading car held aloft of the track until they establish which lane he was in??( insert Pommy accent here" take all the time you want lads, quite alright, hate to trouble you too much,... )
Still think Hornby should sanction the use of six shooters at a club level.
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QUOTE (uksqueezea @ 5 Aug 2004, 08:45)Still think Hornby should sanction the use of six shooters at a club level.
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I would prefer a 9mm semi-auto Beretta; it holds 16 rounds (one chambered and 15 in the magazine). Then again, in a relatively confined area such as the club room, an auto-loading shotgun (say 12 round magazine) would be very effective. For the marshall who has managed to escape then use of the Barret light fifty - a .50 calibre sniper rifle. It should disable the marshall's vehicle, not to mention causing the marshall great discomfort.
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Mark.
I would prefer a 9mm semi-auto Beretta; it holds 16 rounds (one chambered and 15 in the magazine). Then again, in a relatively confined area such as the club room, an auto-loading shotgun (say 12 round magazine) would be very effective. For the marshall who has managed to escape then use of the Barret light fifty - a .50 calibre sniper rifle. It should disable the marshall's vehicle, not to mention causing the marshall great discomfort.
Mark.
I got to say that i am an all or nothing in every thing that i do
prost in his day in F1 used to sit back and play the waiting game ready for someone to make a mistake and then take the win.
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sometime back at north staffs we tried the shooting the marshells game, all be it with guns that fired foam discs(damn should have been those bullets that expode when they entered the body; bloody marshells that would teach them to put me on first no matter what)
getting back to the story
the racing stopped and the shooting of your opponents began, discs flying everywhere good fun; BUT SOME THOUGHT IT TO BE A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME
it was supposed to have been a fun night, to highlight marshells being slow but in a fun way and not single out anybody.
those poeple who thought it to be a waste of time were the slow ones funny that
DR STICKY the fastest trigger finger in North Staffs (thats why i come off on the 3rd corner in crash and burn)
prost in his day in F1 used to sit back and play the waiting game ready for someone to make a mistake and then take the win.
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sometime back at north staffs we tried the shooting the marshells game, all be it with guns that fired foam discs(damn should have been those bullets that expode when they entered the body; bloody marshells that would teach them to put me on first no matter what)
getting back to the story
the racing stopped and the shooting of your opponents began, discs flying everywhere good fun; BUT SOME THOUGHT IT TO BE A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME
it was supposed to have been a fun night, to highlight marshells being slow but in a fun way and not single out anybody.
those poeple who thought it to be a waste of time were the slow ones funny that
DR STICKY the fastest trigger finger in North Staffs (thats why i come off on the 3rd corner in crash and burn)
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QUOTE (LMP04 @ 4 Aug 2004, 20:39)Then again, its me who holds the record at Phoenix for shortest race ever one night when we were short of marshals. 20 cm.
Guy at Crypt/Collingwood once managed to record a mighty -1 laps for a heat. The trick? Jump start which knocks you one lap down, then while busting a gut to try and catch the other five who will be pulling away from the line in a few seconds, overcook it and destroy the car. 0, -1 for jump, +0 for not actually crossing the start/finish properly = -1
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Guy at Crypt/Collingwood once managed to record a mighty -1 laps for a heat. The trick? Jump start which knocks you one lap down, then while busting a gut to try and catch the other five who will be pulling away from the line in a few seconds, overcook it and destroy the car. 0, -1 for jump, +0 for not actually crossing the start/finish properly = -1
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I suppose for me it would depend on the situation, the other drivers on the track, and their car. If the other driver is reckless and tends to crash a lot, i would take it easy, wait for them to crash, and then take the lead, yet if they were a more "timid" driver, and/or their car is over magneted and the motor is not used to its full potential, i would tend to go harder, and push the car a little more.
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well for me it has to be all or nothing, this has been proved in a porsche gt3 race where in overtaking the 1st place guy i crashed resulting in a 4th place finish
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but having said that i drive like a maniac all the time, based on the theory if it falls off then it obviously wasent that important
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(apart from that wheel on the porsche)
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All the chat about marshalls was amusing, as none are needed for C & B racing!
Surely one's approach to driving must depend on circumstances?
For instance, if the other competitors are cautious or plain slow, there is NO point in you going hell for leather, coming off and allowing all the others to beat you, perhaps from several laps behind!
Somewhat conversely, if you are running second to a very fast driver and all the other guys have already come off, there is nothing to be lost by giving it all you've got -you can't place lower than you already are and you just might win.
Surely one's approach to driving must depend on circumstances?
For instance, if the other competitors are cautious or plain slow, there is NO point in you going hell for leather, coming off and allowing all the others to beat you, perhaps from several laps behind!
Somewhat conversely, if you are running second to a very fast driver and all the other guys have already come off, there is nothing to be lost by giving it all you've got -you can't place lower than you already are and you just might win.
Welcome back Tropi!
I think I voted 'hell for leather', but as Tropi says, if I was miles ahead I'd probably ease off half a tenth... Doesn't really matter, we never race C&B, thank god...
One funny thing that I have noticed is that if I ease off the pace, I can have a couple of stupid offs. I prefere to race as quick as poss most of the time, it's just more fun. This is shown by our track records. My race record (over ten laps) for a class will be considerably slower than 10 times my lap record, because few races go by when I don't have an off...
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I think I voted 'hell for leather', but as Tropi says, if I was miles ahead I'd probably ease off half a tenth... Doesn't really matter, we never race C&B, thank god...
One funny thing that I have noticed is that if I ease off the pace, I can have a couple of stupid offs. I prefere to race as quick as poss most of the time, it's just more fun. This is shown by our track records. My race record (over ten laps) for a class will be considerably slower than 10 times my lap record, because few races go by when I don't have an off...
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I may be way off the pace here, but surely C&B racing is more fun due to being more realistic? I mean, if you have the threat of coming off and thats the end of your race, doesn't that make for more exciting racing?
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This is a hobby that's supposed to be entertaining, pleasurable fun!
Who is rash enough to claim that sitting miserably on the sidelines watching everyone else enjoy those experiences is, in the slightest degree, any of those things?
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For the vast majority, it is not about realism, it's about having a good time with friends, without too much expense. For the realism fanatics, perhaps we should develop a new accessory for automatically breaking an occasional driver's limb when they crash?
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Who is rash enough to claim that sitting miserably on the sidelines watching everyone else enjoy those experiences is, in the slightest degree, any of those things?
For the vast majority, it is not about realism, it's about having a good time with friends, without too much expense. For the realism fanatics, perhaps we should develop a new accessory for automatically breaking an occasional driver's limb when they crash?
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QUOTE What if you are taken off in the first bend of every race, by an idiot next to you? That wouldn't be too fun for me.
Not that I've ever knocked anyone off....
Seriously, if you think someone is likely to do that wait until you can pass safely: Part of the challenge.
We need someone who has regularly raced both to comment, but I would guess that crash and burn makes you a better driver in the end. Anyone with experience of both race formats care to comment?
Not that I've ever knocked anyone off....
Seriously, if you think someone is likely to do that wait until you can pass safely: Part of the challenge.
We need someone who has regularly raced both to comment, but I would guess that crash and burn makes you a better driver in the end. Anyone with experience of both race formats care to comment?
Name one 'safe' place to overtake?
Exactly.
Don't think that up the inside is any safer or into the breaking zone. I've seen people be taken out in almost every section of our 130 foot track.
There are no 'safe' spots, only some which are safer than others. And if someone wants to tkae you out, they can. Therefore I don't like C&B.
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Exactly.
Don't think that up the inside is any safer or into the breaking zone. I've seen people be taken out in almost every section of our 130 foot track.
There are no 'safe' spots, only some which are safer than others. And if someone wants to tkae you out, they can. Therefore I don't like C&B.
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