[f1rem0uth]

Hi all, please could someone tell me "what is the difference between a Slot.it Flat 6 type motor and a Slot.it Boxer type motor", I'm after buying a long can motor to go in a Slot.it motor pod for long can in-line and also for an angle winder motor pod.

I'm not sure which motor to buy, I just drive on Scalextric plastic track, but I'm a magnet driver, although I'm slowly starting to use less powerful magnets as I get a better driver.

I was thinking of buying the Slot.it Flat-6 R SIMN11H 22.000 pm with the red label. I could use this for both in-line and anglewinder? is this a good choice?

I like fast and powerful motors at the moment, but who knows my preference may change as I'm starting to realise that powerful doesn't mean it will be faster on my not so big track, and less powerful motors are easier to control meaning you can go faster and use the motor to its best.

 

[f1rem0uth]

I have asked this question twice now on 2 different forums, and each time I get no reply, is it a silly question?, the difference between a Boxer and a Flat 6 motor?, is their a difference, is it to do with the magnets? I've never driven either type yet so wouldn't be able to tell this way.

I have a slotting plus speed 2 motor, but it doesn't fit any of my cars at the moment, I have a car on the way that it will fit and a few new Slot.it pods also to come to have a play around with.

 

[Flange]

Flat 6 is a completely different design to slotting plus if you were to get either get the boxer 2 as it fits more cars and has more torque

 

[Michael363672]

The flat 6 is just thinner smae length just some slotit cars require a flatter motor in anglewinder config thats all

Michael

 

[shodan]

The boxer has larger magnets, and therefore has more torque and better braking ability.
The flat6 has a lower centre of gravity due to its profile.

The boxer is 21.5k rpm, 340gcm torque, the flat6 is 22k rpm, 220gcm torque.

I'd go the boxer if it fits..

 

[Richard TB]

I have a slot.it Audi R8 that I converted to an angle winder the Boxer motor would not fit under the cockpit pan but the Flat 6 is thinner and did fit.

 

[SuperSlab]

QUOTE (f1rem0uth @ 27 Nov 2011, 03:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I was thinking of buying the Slot.it Flat-6 R SIMN11H 22.000 pm with the red label. I could use this for both in-line and anglewinder? is this a good choice?
As already mentioned, one of the benefits of the Flat 6 is that you can get it into spaces that a full size FK180 like the Boxer might not fit. Helps a lot if you are limited in interior height.

And BTW: the red lable 22k is the Flat 6 R: has a bit more power than the regular Flat 6:

Flat 6: 20,500 RPM, 200 gcm, 10.3W @ 12V
Flat 6 R: 22,000 RPM, 220 gcm, 12.1W @ 12V
Boxer: 21,500 RPM, 340 gcm12v, 18.3W @ 12V

QUOTE (f1rem0uth @ 27 Nov 2011, 03:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I like fast and powerful motors at the moment, but who knows my preference may change as I'm starting to realise that powerful doesn't mean it will be faster on my not so big track, and less powerful motors are easier to control meaning you can go faster and use the motor to its best.
That is probably one of the big advantages of the Flat 6. I have used both the regular Flat 6 and the Flat 6 R in a few cars and find them very smooth motors with good, controlable power delivery. Case in point: I have just shipped off a couple cars for the CanAm proxy race series in the USA and Canada: one of them has a Flat 6 in it because I think driveability is extremely important in a proxy series. If you are thinking of reducing magnets the Flat 6 could be a good option as it would be easier to control.

But make no mistake: compared to a stock Scaley or Fly motor the Flat 6 is a very significant upgrade power-wise. While quite slight, the change is even noticeable compared to the widely-used Slot.it Orange endbell motor.

You pays your money and you takes your chances...

 

[f1rem0uth]

Hi, amazing response from you all, thank you so much.

"I get it all now", so I may need both, I'll get one of each then - a Boxer and a Flat-6.

I was a first going to get the Flat-6 as it had a little more power, but only 500rpm on paper, but I see of course the Boxers have way more torque.

I have no experience of either of these two motors - Flat-6 or Boxer, so I think my best bet is to either get one of each or get the Boxer first as it has better torque, and I may need the Flat-6 for body clearance.

I'm planning on trying the motors in Racer Sideways and Slot.it Porsche 956, I have the pods ordered, in-line Boxer 1mm offset and anglewinder 1mm offset.

I'm not racer by any means, its just I like fiddling around with the cars and setting them up and I'm just learning about the different set-ups. I only have mainly in-liners at the moment.

 

[Flange]

To get better than both of these at half the price get the scaleauto open can motor called sprinter or something like that ...

 

[f1rem0uth]

QUOTE (Flange @ 28 Nov 2011, 10:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To get better than both of these at half the price get the scaleauto open can motor called sprinter or something like that ...
Hi, I saw those Scaleauto motors once while looking around on the net, they look to be quite good, but was unsure what they are like performance and quality wise, they do some nice looking cars too, I saw this lovely red Toyota GT1, they sure do look nice!

Oh by the way you have some Super Cool pics on your link:

 

[Flange]

I do indeed and as far as my experiences have been I found the scaleauto motors were a couple of tenths faster lap times and better quality than the slot its

 

[f1rem0uth]

QUOTE (Flange @ 28 Nov 2011, 00:28) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Flat 6 is a completely different design to slotting plus if you were to get either get the boxer 2 as it fits more cars and has more torque

Hi, just fitted my Slotting Plus motor to my Racer Sideways, I got this motor as a free gift, but didn't have a car to fit it in.

I used a new Slot.it in-line offset boxer motor mount.

One strange thing I noticed was that I used a 28t offset crown, and it was catching on the motor screw that holds it in the mount!, what I had done was put a washer on with the screw, making the screw stick out a little further, so I removed the washer and the crown JUST fits, is this how you would find it to be normally, what if you wanted to use a 30t crown, I'm sure this would not fit, I guess I have to use smaller tooth crowns?.

Anyways off to finish tinkering with this, I don't have a clue how this motor will be in this car!, but it fits in and I had quick test with the body off and it runs fine, has 28t crown and a 10t 5.5mm in-line pinion. Just I forgot to buy a magnet, thought one came with the pod. (I know - I don't need a magnet!, lol)

 

[Flange]

QUOTE (f1rem0uth @ 8 Dec 2011, 16:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi, just fitted my Slotting Plus motor to my Racer Sideways, I got this motor as a free gift, but didn't have a car to fit it in.

I used a new Slot.it in-line offset boxer motor mount.

One strange thing I noticed was that I used a 28t offset crown, and it was catching on the motor screw that holds it in the mount!, what I had done was put a washer on with the screw, making the screw stick out a little further, so I removed the washer and the crown JUST fits, is this how you would find it to be normally, what if you wanted to use a 30t crown, I'm sure this would not fit, I guess I have to use smaller tooth crowns?.

Anyways off to finish tinkering with this, I don't have a clue how this motor will be in this car!, but it fits in and I had quick test with the body off and it runs fine, has 28t crown and a 10t 5.5mm in-line pinion. Just I forgot to buy a magnet, thought one came with the pod. (I know - I don't need a magnet!, lol)

Obviously as i have offended you in other threads you may want to ignore everything i advised you on as obviously according to people on here i never help only hinder and try and cause arguments.

Anyway! I think all of the gears are pretty much the same diameter but they just have more teeth per inch as such so getting a larger tooth gear wouldnt effect it and vice versa. I may well be wrong . Make sure the motor is screwed/glued into the mount to prevent slop .

 

[Number 27]

The 30t inline crown is mahoosive and will definitely foul the motor retaining screw. Just use one screw to secure the motor on the idle side of the gear only. This is still plenty to retain the motor and stop it from twisting about under acceleration and braking.

 

[f1rem0uth]

QUOTE (Number 27 @ 10 Dec 2011, 00:02) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The 30t inline crown is mahoosive and will definitely foul the motor retaining screw. Just use one screw to secure the motor on the idle side of the gear only. This is still plenty to retain the motor and stop it from twisting about under acceleration and braking.
Hi, ok, yeh the 28t just fits with about half a mil gap with the motor screw. I did try using just 1 screw, but the motor is too loose in the pod, even using the plastic spacer thingy that goes on the opposite end to the pinion. Maybe its the motor, this isn't with a Slot.it motor, its a Slotting Plus, anyway, I have aborted the idea of using the Slotting plus motor because it protrudes below the bottom of pod/chassis by a fraction and this causes it to catch on my track joins as the car drives over them.

I'm not certain but I think this motor is not meant for in-line but for an angle-winder set-up, well I'm now certain of this anyway.
Ok, Flange did mention before that this was a different type/design motor to the Slot.it Boxer or Flat 6, I can see what he means now!.

I was just trying to use this spare motor I have, but it will now be waiting for an anglewinder pod, so I can fit it correctly!.

I have a Slot.it Boxer and a Flat 6 on order also to try out.

 

[Number 27]

You could also try screws with countersunk heads which should give you a bit more clearance. From memory, MB slot do a mixed pack of normal and countersunk motor screws.

 

[f1rem0uth]

QUOTE (Number 27 @ 10 Dec 2011, 09:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You could also try screws with countersunk heads which should give you a bit more clearance. From memory, MB slot do a mixed pack of normal and countersunk motor screws.
Hi, yeh not sure if these will help, but I already have some on order, not seen the MB slot ones, I'll have to have a look!.

Slot it SICH54B Screws For EVO 6 Motor Mount Sink Head