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Wont it be cool to see everyones car able to take the same racing line!

The monster 4/6/8-lane tracks are cool but dont look so realistic.

This will greatly benefit the modeller.
 

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QUOTE (Ecurie Ecosse @ 24 Aug 2004, 01:41)Depends on where you place the emphasis; on SCALE, MODEL or RACING.
How true.

And I have been enjoying my model railroad DCC based digital setup of SCALE, MODEL racing - in that order and importance.. for 4 months now..
 

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I think it will appeal to the racer as well, but that it will take a high degree of skill and nerves of steel to do well.
 

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Hi,

As i'm huge F1 fan i have dreamed of digital grand prix
4 lane setup and 12 to 15 cars and it would be fun. If CPU's could calculate used "gas" it would be fun to choose your pit stop tactics. With proper sensors it would be possible to simulate damage after contacting other cars and offcourse that damage must be repaired in pit. In few years most of that will be possible...

Sure digital will be adding much realism into racing. I like also "traditional" analog racing. First digital generations may leave some hopes of smoother operation, but i think that 2nd and 3rd will release those digital possibilities for us:) It will be also interesting to get learning all those tactical matters what LC is going to bring.

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I am looking forward to more realism. Right now with my analog setup I find myself unplugging to the next station just to run the other lane for a bit. It will be lovely to choose where the heck I want to go lane-wise without the unplugging.

I also look forward to honing a new skill in order to pass, block, protect your position as opposed to just a long circular drag race. (no disrespect to fans of that type of traditional racing which depend heavily upon car setup/tuning then driving skill).

I await digital/MCPL salvation in my salivation.


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I think that those whos hobby is to tune and race their cars in clubs are quite marginal group compared to whole slotcar market. I'm sure that it is nice hobby but it's only one way to have fun with these things. Since there is lots of families with kids i hope that digital consept will introduce slotcars for kids again. Nowadays slotcars are not so popular at least in finland
I believe that kids can change that only if they would be interested of this hobby again.

About LC:

I have noticed that even crossover racing curve is increasing realism in analog race becouse you have to take other car in account. I have placed four of those curves into my track and it is more interesting to race becouse i have to be careful in order to avoid collision. Just imagine what digital LC will be


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QUOTE ...i have to be careful in order to avoid collision.

Oh you'll love Digital then! Best of luck


Wankel = Digital Doomsayer.
 

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Hi guys,

I have to agree with certain comments and feelings in this (and other) threads..

The fixed 6 or 8 lane speedways are and have been built to serve a purpose, for us to enjoy racing "As close as we possibly can", to to the real thing, by means of racing ALL lanes in order to accomplish some level of fairness in the overall results...

Digital will not only allow more realism, (in more ways than one), but also, maintain the existing levels of competitiveness, and introduce new and much required skills in order to win.

By taking out any variables such as hardware or lap counting problems, IMHO, digital is going to seperate the men from the boys. I don't know about other wooden tracks around the world, but crashes DO occur just as much on those tracks (And our club), and this with no form of lane changing systems. A de-slot with the buch close behind usually results in more mayhem, so, how much more of an issue really, will Digital bring to to this scenario?

A big crash on standard tracks also requires a marshal to have to reslot the car(s) back in the correct lanes, which is also time consuming. Digital, the chances are the cars might re-slot themselves if they stay on their wheels and coast across a corner, or bounce off a barrier and back into the outside lane, which, coincidently, will be the marshal's first point of re-marshalling anyway...

By also introducing penulties for forced crashes and bumping, the drivers themselves will also realise they can't simply push a slower car out of the way, but will require more grey matter to work the tactics out to do the overtaking manouvre in a decent, and correct fashion.

I know for a fact, irrespective of costs, that when Ninco release their Digital System, I will be first in line to buy the "kits" and build a new 3 laner at home which WON't require the arbitrary bridge/lane evener, and provide a much more interesting, and realistic aspect to the hobby...

Evolution has arrived, 40 plus years down the line...

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Big Al
 

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Hi

So, what you are saying is that NINCO is the system out of the8 I have read about that will be the winner?

THAT will become the world wide standard?

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There won't be a standard. You see it allready now. One likes Carrera the other likes Ninco and someone likes Scalex and list goes on... Manufacturers does differend tracks all the time and conserning their digital development they will not have any intresses to integrate their newest inventions to someone others protocol- There is no economical sense to offer "converter" for some others protocol.

If there will be standard it will be developed by opensource community and after short while manufacturers will be forced to join the standard. This has happened in many other area than slotcars many times.

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Sami
 

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QUOTE There won't be a standard..... If there will be standard it will be developed by opensource community and after short while manufacturers will be forced to join the standard. This has happened in many other area than slotcars many times.

Unless, and until, a standard arises, I will avoid digital like the plague. Beta/VHS, CD/Mini-disc, 8-track/cassette, Ni-cad/Ni-MH/LIon.... tired of repetitive purchasing to stay on top of rapidly evolving and changing technologies. Unless, and until, it distills to something like DCC did in model railroading, I am not jumping on the digital slot bandwagon.
 

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"Digital . . . will introduce new and much required skills in order to win."
Not sure upon what any requirement for "new skills" is based.
It's an opinion but I believe it is in a minority.

"By taking out any variables such as hardware or lap counting problems"[/quote
Not only do I think it won't achieve this, but I am fairly sure it will introduce even more variables.

"I don't know about other wooden tracks around the world, but crashes DO occur just as much on those tracks (And our club), and this with no form of lane changing systems. A de-slot with the buch close behind usually results in more mayhem, so, how much more of an issue really, will Digital bring to to this scenario?"
Common sense and logic place beyond any doubt that, if crashes already occur with no lane changing, then the incidence will automatically increase with lane changing.

"By also introducing penulties for forced crashes and bumping, the drivers themselves will also realise they can't simply push a slower car out of the way, but will require more grey matter to work the tactics out to do the overtaking manouvre in a decent, and correct fashion."
More offences and more penalties will absolutely require judgement decisions from other people. Assuming there are people who will take on this job, it's a certain recipe for argument and bad feeling, especially if, as in the vast majority of cses, those judges will be other drivers!

Digital and lane changing has much to recommend it, but the points I mention are real and definite disadvantages.
 

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QUOTE (Midas the King @ 24 Aug 2004, 19:29)There won't be a standard. You see it allready now. One likes Carrera the other likes Ninco and someone likes Scalex and list goes on... Manufacturers does differend tracks all the time and conserning their digital development they will not have any intresses to integrate their newest inventions to someone others protocol- There is no economical sense to offer "converter" for some others protocol.

If there will be standard it will be developed by opensource community and after short while manufacturers will be forced to join the standard. This has happened in many other area than slotcars many times.

Best regards:

Sami
As said before Davic is potentially The Standard.
It works on every track system, every car, and is built by an independant brand.
The problem is that Cric-crac, (the distributor) seems to be... dead !
Has anybody got infos about prices, release dates ?

Jean-marc.
 

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I have a problem with this.

I'm looking forward to digital 'cause it'll allow me to model some of the more "combatative" racing categories such as Rally-cross & Speedway racing. A hit & giggle. (Don't have enough time nor money for a "club" track nor to go to one dammit). I'll still have my analog for my babies though. Hurt them enought without being driven into!

I don't believe that these threads will settle into something meaningful until we've all had a chance to have a bash at it. Everything I seem to read is either from Europe through DAVIC racing or from pro & anti digital people talking toot.

I would like to see people taking this with an open mind. Yeah it's different. It ain't going to drag people by the thousands from the "Analog" tracks - it ain't going to drag people from the PS2's. It's just a "new" way to play & will take a while to filter through no matter how enthused you are (after all - who bought a "first" generation anything??)
 

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Not meaning to be a bully but Tropi, you missed this little gem;
QUOTE Digital, the chances are the cars might re-slot themselves if they stay on their wheels and coast across a corner, or bounce off a barrier and back into the outside lane...

Oh, yeah. That's really going to happen.

[Edit]I mean, it's really going to happen so much that either you don't worry so much about the crashes or you won't be giving marshals more work to do.[/Edit]

Eno is kinda right, nothing really meaningful can be said until the product is out there; but SCX is and the races we had weren't pretty (I can only see Scaley being a different style of carnage) but as long as folks dream of digital crashes being self-marshalling then carp will continue to be posted from both sides of the arguement.

Sheesh.
 

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Whilst he may be misunderstood I see the sense in the posted comment regarding re slotting in another lane. It does happen often at ours and causes a lap counting problem. I can see the sense of what was posted as in if the car goes into any digital slot then no problem, just race on! (well at least until you crash on the next LC).
 
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