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After speaking to Malcolm yesterday It appears I had not sent a cheque, now rectified, posted 1/2 hour ago...
When I spoke to Phil at Wolves he was threatening to 'tweak' the EB rules a bit and outlaw post war rear engined cars like the Porsche 718 and the lotus 18, I can't see this in the rules so is my Porsche 718 good to go?
Peter
When I spoke to Phil at Wolves he was threatening to 'tweak' the EB rules a bit and outlaw post war rear engined cars like the Porsche 718 and the lotus 18, I can't see this in the rules so is my Porsche 718 good to go?
Peter
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Hi Bill, Glad to hear that there is no change to the rules.
And yes, you are quite right, the 718 WAS an F2 car until the 1.5 formula and then it ran as an F1 until the 804 replaced it (although it continued until 1961 with some privateer entries).
HOWEVER
back in the day F2 cars were used to make up the numbers and my car is actually a replica of the factory 718 driven by Wolfgang Von trips at the 1959 German GP at Avus (I also have pics of the same car at the Solitude GP) so in my humble opinion it makes the cut for Early Birds, just as the Ferrari F500 F2 car has in the past.
Picture scanned in from the excellent, if massive, 'Porsche - portrait of a legend' Ingo Seiff's opus on the subject of all things Porsche.
regards Tif
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And yes, you are quite right, the 718 WAS an F2 car until the 1.5 formula and then it ran as an F1 until the 804 replaced it (although it continued until 1961 with some privateer entries).
HOWEVER
back in the day F2 cars were used to make up the numbers and my car is actually a replica of the factory 718 driven by Wolfgang Von trips at the 1959 German GP at Avus (I also have pics of the same car at the Solitude GP) so in my humble opinion it makes the cut for Early Birds, just as the Ferrari F500 F2 car has in the past.
Picture scanned in from the excellent, if massive, 'Porsche - portrait of a legend' Ingo Seiff's opus on the subject of all things Porsche.
regards Tif
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QUOTE My (unofficial) thoughts are, no to F2 rear engined models.
Aha, so you are changing the rules
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So what about the Lotus 18? Is that OK, it has certainly run in the past EBs?
Whatever, you know me, if the rules say no, then thats the rules and i will abide by them. I presume prewar rea engined are still OK? I was planning on dusting off and updating my Auto union....
Aha, so you are changing the rules
So what about the Lotus 18? Is that OK, it has certainly run in the past EBs?
Whatever, you know me, if the rules say no, then thats the rules and i will abide by them. I presume prewar rea engined are still OK? I was planning on dusting off and updating my Auto union....
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Please confirm that the ERA is NOT allowed before I do any more work on the car!
I must say that I can see every bit of logic in not allowing the Porsche 718 and NO LOGIC in then allowing the Lotus 18/cooper T51 as Phil points out these cars were technically advanced and belong with the later F1/GP cars...
I guess I will just have to get a new Lotus 18 body for the Porsche
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Shame about the GT models ERA though....
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I must say that I can see every bit of logic in not allowing the Porsche 718 and NO LOGIC in then allowing the Lotus 18/cooper T51 as Phil points out these cars were technically advanced and belong with the later F1/GP cars...
I guess I will just have to get a new Lotus 18 body for the Porsche
Shame about the GT models ERA though....
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QUOTE Tiff,
Under the current rules an Auto Union is ok providing it meets scale dimensional requirements and it is not a streamliner
Ta for the prompt response, I have to say I am glad it is not me having to abitrate/make the final decisions on eligability...
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Regards
Tif
Under the current rules an Auto Union is ok providing it meets scale dimensional requirements and it is not a streamliner
Ta for the prompt response, I have to say I am glad it is not me having to abitrate/make the final decisions on eligability...
Regards
Tif
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And just to prove that 'lastminute.com' finished the cars....
Sorry about the crummy photos.
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Just made a last minute improvement to the Lotus 18 which now sports a proper white/chequered helmet for innes ireland/Oulton Gold Cup car 1960
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Sorry about the crummy photos.
[EDIT]
Just made a last minute improvement to the Lotus 18 which now sports a proper white/chequered helmet for innes ireland/Oulton Gold Cup car 1960
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Can I add my thanks to the great team at Wolves. Despite missing the saturday social element (and I did miss it but it was management's birthday on Saturday, 'nuff said) I had a great EB.
I was a bit surprised the judges preferred my Auto Union to my Lotus 18 but I was extremely pleased with 2nd in concours - thank you.
See you all later in the year.
Peter
I was a bit surprised the judges preferred my Auto Union to my Lotus 18 but I was extremely pleased with 2nd in concours - thank you.
See you all later in the year.
Peter
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