Farnham Slot Rally - Surrey - 23rd Sept 2012

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JEXY1

Discussion Starter · Jul 12, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

In association with Farnham Scalextric Club, SlotRallyGB is proud to announch the seventh round of the championship will take place on Sunday 23rd September 2012 at Farnham Scalextric Club - Farnham Conservative Club - Ivy Lane - Farnham - Surrey - GU9 7PQ

Doors will open at 0830. Parking is available on-site.

Breakfast will be served along with food during the day and the bar will be open during lunch.

Stages will be a mixture of Ninco, SCX, Scalextric and routed tracks some tracks will not have brakes!

This is the thread to enter this round, please add your name to this thread if you wish to enter.

1. Gareth Jex (SAT)
2. Don Stanley
3. Lawrence Atrill (SAT)
4. Alec Edge
5. Nick Garton
6. Adrian Leggett
7. Jenson Leggett (jr)
8. Chris Evans
9. Paul Evans
10. Brian (Farnham)
11. Paul 2. (Farnham)
12. Norman Facey
13. Graham Smith
14. Jamie Coles
15. Jim Moyes
16. ~~Steve Baker~~ ~~replaced with Lee Green~~ - Pete Day
17. Martyn the nervous
18. Sebastian Birchmore (jr)
19. Alan Birchmore
20. Julian Allard
21. Chris Angold
22. Dave Capelan
23. Ryan Kneale
24. Ben Clements (jr)
25. Keith Clements
26. Steve Jones
27. Craig Jones
28. Phil Field
29. Gary Williams
30. David Williams
31. Wayne Goble
32. Luke Tyrell
33. Alan Davis
34. Nigel Lewis
35. Chris Lewis (Jr)
36. John Underwood
37. Phil Barry
38. Russell Powell
39. Matt Tucker
40. Bill Charters
41. Keith Jenkins
42. Dave Lord
43. Phil Upton
44. ~~Lee Henderson~~
45. Kane Tilley
46. Charles Tilley
47. Wes Hooker
48. Alan Murrell
49. Tony Squires
50.

Please reserve your place as quickly as possible and let others know about the event.

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montoya1

· #81 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Perhaps the cut-off point should be changed to 1978. Rallying went through a lot of changes around 1979-1982 and as things stand Classic is neither arthur nor martha.

QUOTE (pasiro @ 25 Aug 2012, 15:23) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>According to Wiki it didn't come R5 Turbo didn't come out until 1980 which means it has to be 80's, doesn't it?

When it comes to something as specific as this I'd trust Gareth over wikipedia any day of the week.

pasiro

· #82 · Aug 25, 2012

QUOTE (montoya1 @ 25 Aug 2012, 15:26) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Perhaps the cut-off point should be changed to 1978. Rallying went through a lot of changes around 1979-1982 and as things stand Classic is neither arthur nor martha.

But greater changes were made for Group B in 82 (I think) maybe that should be the cut off point

I think for those who attend these meetings they would mostly say that it works well as it is, if it aint broken etc

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montoya1

· #83 · Aug 25, 2012

Sure, it is going great guns and it is something I enjoying reading about.

But any time you have dated cut-offs you will have incongruities. The R5T is one of them.

pasiro

· #84 · Aug 25, 2012

QUOTE (montoya1 @ 25 Aug 2012, 16:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But any time you have dated cut-offs you will have incongruities. The R5T is one of them.

Don't most new cars state on the box what rally they took place in and the year?

montoya1

· #85 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Yes, and Gareth knows his onions too.

But to my mind the R5T belongs in the brief period after the classic 2WD cars and before the 4WD Group B monsters. if it ran in 1979 it could only of been a few of times, and not in the WRC. I saw it in 1981, by which time 4WD was the thing to have.

I liked the look of the earlier Group B cars, but not the way they went. The later cars I could not warm too at all.

By contrast I loved the R5T, I just think it looks 'wrong' next to Escorts and Fiats etc.

LeeH

· #86 · Aug 25, 2012

Just read the Slot Rally GB rules and says it goes in Classic not in 80's

montoya1

· #87 · Aug 25, 2012

OK, I think that is covered by having faith in Gareth. He lives and breaths this stuff.

However, what happens if you buy a legal car shape that ran after 1979? As Paul says the cars show on their packaging which rally they ran in. That is going to be the case with a lot of the R5Ts I would think. This means a 1980s cars IS running in classic, despite what you say.

pasiro

· #88 · Aug 25, 2012

Must be reading different rules to me

the only Renault's I see listed under classic are: Renault Dauphine, Alpine 110, 8
The only Renault I see listed under 80's is Renault 5 and no others

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Turboslot

· #89 · Aug 25, 2012

I'd re-read the class list if I were you LeeH. To me it reads as the Renault 5 in 80's/

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Mr.M

· #90 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

I think the original SCX/Exin Renault 5 (the model of the front engined 1:1 car) would be in classic, but the later SCX, Fly and Teamslot Renault 5 Turbos (mid-engined car) are in 80's.

LeeH

· #91 · Aug 25, 2012

You guys are right sorry must of been knacked at work last night. Ok so 2 in Classic, 1 in 80's and 1 in Pro Stock. Strange how was in Classic with it at AEC then

montoya1

· #92 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

I think it is you guys that need to re-read things:

Typically cars in this class include (but not limited to) the following.

This list is not exclusive and if you wish to run a car not shown above just get in touch and we can advise

The R5T took part in the 1979 Rally Italy at the very least, so you are OK Lee. I suppose if you have a colour scheme from 1980 onwards they could say you should not or run it??

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LeeH

· #93 · Aug 25, 2012

This is the one I ran at AEC and going to run at Farnham

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pasiro

· #94 · Aug 25, 2012

1986 according to this

LINK

montoya1

· #95 · Aug 25, 2012

That is a Maxi, no way they ran before 1980.

Looks as if we need Gareth....

pasiro

· #96 · Aug 25, 2012

This is off of Pendles site and that also says 1986

Looks like it's the same car as Lee's

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montoya1

· #97 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Right, but are the cars classed by shape or colour scheme?

In other words the car in post #92 is legal, but the exact same mould of a car than rallied in 1980 is not?

The rules are not clear.

Hobby

· #98 · Aug 25, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Hi guys.
To put some context into this debate.
Gareth makes the call as to which model goes in what class. The 'Classic' class is a 'slow' class, there for reasonable 'Scale' models of cars that rallied in the Pre 80's period. The 80's class is a much 'quicker' class look at some of the overall Rally times for the eighties models! It's Gareth's call but IMHO the Team Slot Renault 5 should be in 80's..its a dreadfull out of scale monster that should have no place in Classic.
Cheers Bill.

JEXY1

Discussion Starter · #99 · Aug 27, 2012 (Edited by Moderator)

Sorry i didn't see this conversation taking place as i was on holiday.

You are all right - in terms of fixing specific cars to dates is almost impossible so if in doubt ask - which is what you have done.

For the purposes of SRGB 2012;
Renault Five Turbo's and Renault Five Maxi Turbo's (Like Fly, SCX, Teamslot versions) are in 80's Rally Class;

Renault Five's like this;

Are in Classic rally class, but don't forget to add a navigator!

And Spirit Renault 5's are in Pro Stock;

As an aside;
The Renault Five Alpine was announced in 1976 (sold in the UK as the R5 Gordini) - this car type had success on the Monte in 1978 - in slot terms - this is the older Exin/SCX/Altaya version.

Then in 1978 Renault displayed the R5 Turbo a year later it debuted on the Italian Giro d'Italia as a prototype. The R5 Turbo was homologated into group 4 in 1980 (Sept).

The Renault 5 Maxi Turbo was homologated into Group B later in the 80's.

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montoya1

· #100 · Aug 27, 2012

So what happens to LeeH's points from AEC?

Lesson learned, move on?

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