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there are minor cosmetic differences among the cars for various reasons. For instance, Surtees drove one in the USRRC series with a plain roll bar and halibrand wheels!

Anyway, the real difference between the "P" cars; 250, 275, 330, is the size of the engine. But, largly there is no consistant external mention.

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Thanks... so if I want the Le Mans winner from 1963 you think I can use the MRRC kit with the 1964 275P car?

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Hi Rich! sorry missed this the first time round. Fate is right, the only difference between the lemans winning '63 250P and the '64 275P was the engine size, the '63 3.0lt & the '64 a 3.2lt.

The MRRC version that was around about 4 years ago could be used as a basis for either version, it just comes down to the decals you finish it off with. The MRRC car was available in red,white,yellow and black! As I was going to repaint mine anyway I located a white one, but I guess with prepping any would do. The wheels are very crude (the same as BUMslot has been using until recently) I've put PinkCar ones on it but may change to the new spokes from Cartrix as fitted to their new classic GP Mercedes.

The question is how do I finish it off? 63 lemans winner, 64 lemans winner or how about the 63 Targa Florio car as driven by Surtees/Parkes?


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Thank you very much! I collect Le Mans winners so I will have both of them. I think it would be best for me to get the red and the white version. They have the correct numbers or do you get all numbers with every car?

Go for the 63 Le Mans winner!

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I'm afraid Rich that they came with horrible stick on roundels when they left MRRC and didn't represent cars from the previous mentioned races. These models were not kits but ready to run slotcars and did not not come with any decal sheets. MRE in England and Patto's Place in Australia are good source of decals if you want to replicate specific racecars.

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The rtrs are cheaper than the MRRC kits. The body is ex-Monogram from 64 molds, cast recently. I am not sure about the inner workings of why and how(rumors abound).

My choice, I have several original Monos that I have been running since new, and back ups. This being one of my favorites, I decided I wanted a modern car, that is a scratch anglewinder with modern bits that I could run a lot and have easy spares for.

Making this decision: vintage Monos new in the package cost more than the new MRRC replicas. In some respects, the new cast is actually better than the original as in separate pieces on the original are now integrated to the body. Less to fall off! So, I bought several! Just for the bodies.

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Prof, I didn't know that MRRC had released this as a kit! Do you know who stocks it? (I'm sure Rich and I would like to obtain a few.)
Out of interest the RTR one's have a very simple plastic inline chassis with a standard looking small can motor, however they are unbelievably quick. I have glued a small magnet in below the pinion and on those cartrix tyres, it can lap my circuit just 2 tenths off the record set by a Fly Lola 98!

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p.s. I think I'm going to go for the Targo Florio car first, I just love those big white squarish numbers Ferrari used in the early 60's!
 

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If any ones interested I have plenty of the early MRRC body kits in white or yellow in stock.
They are listed on my sapres site under 'Monogram 1/32'

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(the early ones retained the separate headlight and lens and not a plastic moulded blob as on the later rtr mouldings, in fact they are exactley the same as the 60's Monogram kits)
 

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I'm sure Airfix do a kit of the Ferrari 250P. I bought one at the same time as their kit of a Porsche 917. It's at home in a cupboard with all my other retirement projects so I can't double check. They only seem to reissue them spasmodically.
 

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The only Airfix kit I have seen is of the 250LM, not the "P" car.

There was a rtr in the 60s that I have the body of, but not seen the body or kit separately(an english collecter who has since died got them for me).

As for the MRRC kit. I am in america. I have NEVER seen any of the MRRC kits except as a listing. And a few photos. If I understand the photos, it seems that the kits are nice and about 3 times the cost of the RTR, using a revell type aluminum chassis, and metal parts everywhere. The few times I have hears of a U.S. supplier getting any of them, they seem to sell out before I get a shot!

Grin!

Anyway, in the day, I only briefly ran a Mono P car. Atlas had a conversion kit to use their 208 powered car that I liked better, and I have scratchbuilds. I love the car. Besides the ones you mention, there are versions that ran in Red with a white nose, or white stripe or light blue panels. There was a car that ran a bit later that was blue and white. This is a tiny car and fun to build things under.

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Sorry its taken so long to get back to with the pictures Richard, heres how I finished off my MRRC/Monogram 250/275p.

This was the Surtees/Parkes 250p from the 1963 Targa Florio, I completely disassembled the model and sprayed it with 4 coats of Tamiya Italian Red (TS-8) and finished it off with MRE transfers.

The wheels are the Pink Car ones as used on their GTO models and available from Gaugemaster as a pair of axles with tyres. These have been toned down a bit using a mix of silver and grey enamel paints.

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Hey GT,
I´m doing one of these "kits" myself this very moment (watching the paint dry
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I´m going for the Le Mans winner of ´63 AND ´64 (as I have two bodies). Who is your driver? I mean, where is he from? Looks like the guy Racer is using.

What chassis do you use?
Looks really good, but I will go for the BWA-wheels


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GT40: Congratulations! That´s a fantastic looking car!

dannyboy: Then you have to post some pics when you are ready with your work!



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QUOTE (Rokkoko666 @ 11 Nov 2004, 16:14)GT40: Congratulations! That´s a fantastic looking car!

dannyboy: Then you have to post some pics when you are ready with your work!



// Richard
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I will when I get a digital-camera (probably around year 2013
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No, I´ll see what I can do.

Danny
 
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