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Hi All,
Its been about along time for me without a track after a move, but thankfully a new build is underway. My previous tracks ave been scaley plastic. This time I'm going for routed.
The track will be 2 lane scorpius digital/analogue configurable and able to take 1/32 & 1/24 so 100mm lane spacing. Overall lane length is about 23m. In digital will use up to 4 cars.
The area I've got to work with is an unusual space but have settled on a layout that should accommodate the multifunction use of the room. The resulting overall plan size is around 5m x 5m.
The design preference for me was to have a relatively free flowing layout, a long strait included, operational pits, and equal length lanes for analogue mode. Also wanted adequate space for scenery over time.
Also have an idea to add a rally/hill climb stage to the side. Wont finalise this till after the main track is built so I can judge better how it will integrate.

So too he lay out.


It will run primarily clockwise, but will be able to be operated bi-directionally, for variety.

The red lies show the lane changes. have gone for a couple of true best line bends and a few lane change 'choice' points to mix it up.

I looked into getting the slots CNC routed locally , but the cost was looking like too much, so have started doing the routing myself. I'm trying the method of printing out the layout 1:1 including radius centre marks for routing to start with and see how it goes. Am thinking a combination of routed radius arm for the tight corners and guide strip for longer curves.

To the Build:
The support table gives a feel of the size:




The Routing:
This one shows the printed layout laid (light adhesive spray & sticky tape)



I made a base for the router that fits the spacing of the lanes.


as well as fit a longer radius jig:


Having a woodwork setup, for the longer guide I ripped a strip of pine to 8mmx8mm that was flexible enough for the sweeping bends, worked well.


Once I had one lane done I used a piece of 'yellow tongue' (the plastic joining strip you get out of chipboard floor, left over from some renos) to use as a guide to cut the second slot. The yellow tongue was actually too thick by a smidge, so ran it through the thicknesser!



and voila!



a few 'excursions' , but nothing that cant be patched.:


Still need to rout the braid recess but will do that once all pieces are cut & joined.

The flippers will be aluminum tailored to each LC so will do at end to see how far I strayed of the designed geometry.

That's it for now, will update after next weekend efforts.

Cheers
Ray
 

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That looks like it is going to be great! Nice to see you aren't relegated to basement like many of us. Looking forward to more posts.
 

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Hello Ray,

Looking forward to following this build. You've got a nice track design there - and a space to work with that most of us can only dream of!

Running clockwise, coming out of the long 4th corner and blasting onto the back straight looks like it will be great fun.

Nice to have the option of adding the rally/hill-climb stage later too. Having a hill-climb section suggests there will be at least one part of the track with elevation changes. Do you plan to have some nice rises and falls elsewhere on the track?

Cheers
Steve
 

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Very nice inded. I wonder if is optimal to combined 1:24 & 1:32 !
But on this track it looks great.
 

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Thanks for the great feedback!

QUOTE (Jango @ 29 Aug 2012, 05:39) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you plan to have some nice rises and falls elsewhere on the track?

Steve, this should give you a rough idea (i'm new to sketchup, so it's a bit crude)



I may put a bit more of an undulation in the straightt. The right hand side will be based on mountain scenery and the left more undulating land scape, with a valley and bridge in between. Well thats the kinda concept at the moment.

Mike,
I hope I have something drivable when you get here. With a bit of luck I'll finish the slot routing this weekend. Still waiting on braid to come and flippers are a good way off yet. fingers crossed.

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Ray
 

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QUOTE (Lasp @ 29 Aug 2012, 22:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very nice inded. I wonder if is optimal to combined 1:24 & 1:32 !
But on this track it looks great.

Lasp,
It will primarily be 1:32, with all the scenery, buildings etc scaled to that. The 1:24 is an option. Basically there are some great 1:24 scale model kits out there I'd love to convert to slot cars just for the hell of it!

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Sorry, got impatient & hit the post button twice, my bad.

QUOTE (Lasp @ 29 Aug 2012, 22:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very nice inded. I wonder if is optimal to combined 1:24 & 1:32 !
But on this track it looks great.

Lasp,
It will primarily be 1:32, with all the scenery, buildings etc scaled to that. The 1:24 is an option. Basically there are some great 1:24 scale model kits out there I'd love to convert to slot cars just for the hell of it!

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QUOTE (Jango @ 30 Aug 2012, 07:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If it was me, I probably leave the main straight as it is in that Sketchup plan. I'd still want to give it some beans down there without worrying about launching the car!

The more I look at it the more I agree with you.

QUOTE (4.3 ZOOK @ 30 Aug 2012, 09:24) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very good point,the ratio of 1/24 models to 1/32,are 100 to 1.
And I've collected a few (too many?) and they hide in waiting



Now to latest progress on the Track!
Haven't been able to spend as much time as I would have liked on the track recently, but the basic layout is now in.
Cut & joined all pieces, bogged, and just finished doing the braid recess with guide pin router bit, makes it so easy to do.

No elevation yet that comes next, but you get the idea of layout & scale.



lane change, haven't cut out the flipper housings yet. Waiting for them to arrive before I do the final fit.




1/32 1/24 comparison


Pits


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Ray
 

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Great stuff there mate,

You are doing exactly what i have been planning for a while.
what router bits did you use?

I have not made a choice on what system etc,
i am not that familiar with Scorpius would be interesting to see what amps it can handle etc,. EDIT > 3 amps a piece max

I want to make a fast track Circuit with a looped rally stage atached,
where you also have the choice to go back on the tarmac.
That would give you the option to run Tarmac-Offroad or both in one lap.

Will follow your progress with great interest.
 

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Hi JaakBeentjes, thanks for interest

QUOTE (JaakBeentjes @ 11 Sep 2012, 09:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what router bits did you use?
I'm using router bits bought online from Slot Car Corner http://www.slotcarcorner.com/Track-Braiding-c23/
Used 2 bits, first one to cut the main slot was 1/8th inch (could probably have sourced that anywhere really)


and the second to cut the braid recess. This one uses a central guide pin that sits in the previously cut slot, just set the depth and away you go.


the only issue I found with this one was when I put a bit too much downward force on the router where the mdf spanned over a larger spacing in the supports the mdf deflected down and effectively reduced the depth of the cut, so had to go back over a couple of sections.

QUOTE (JaakBeentjes @ 11 Sep 2012, 09:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have not made a choice on what system etc,
i am not that familiar with Scorpius would be interesting to see what amps it can handle etc,. EDIT > 3 amps a piece max
I've been following the Scorpius development from the beginning, to me it looks the goods and continues to develop. I tinkered with the scaley system initially but the chips either failed or made the cars accelerate into the wall & I got fed up with it, may have improved by now, but I think the Scorpius system is more flexible and less of a 'toy' (well maybe toy for big kids
) . Guess you've looked at the Scorpius threads. Heaps of info but well worth having a good read. For me some of the main benefits I see are:
ability to run track in both directions, the PEARL (Programmable Electronically Activated Race Line) system in which you can pre program you race line and move off it as the race requires, that way you can concentrate on you laps, ability (soon I understand) to have intelligent ghost cars, pace cars, and pit managements etc, sector timing.... maybe have a look at Rik's web site if you haven't already.

QUOTE (JaakBeentjes @ 11 Sep 2012, 09:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I want to make a fast track Circuit with a looped rally stage atached,
where you also have the choice to go back on the tarmac.
That would give you the option to run Tarmac-Offroad or both in one lap.
I'm surprised there is not more like us, but I haven't seen a lot of it. I started out planning to have it come directly off the main track, but lately was thinking about basically a separate circuit. But will probably change my mind again several times before I get onto that part. On top of that I was also thinking about incorporating a smaller separate raid loop somewhere in the scenery parts.

Basically I think this is a project that may never actually end


Hope to get more done this weekend so will post more updates as I go.

Cheers
Ray
 

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QUOTE (mondo @ 11 Sep 2012, 23:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Basically I think this is a project that may never actually end

Hey Ray
Isn't this normal???
The track is looking sweeeeeeet
Keep it humming along
See you next month


PS The Road warrior!
Where did you get that?
I think I'll have to bring a couple of cars for my visit- they'll be analogue though
 

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Hey Ray,

Thanks for the link,
that second bit looks the part, the first as you said should be able to be sourced nearly anywhere.

Did you decide on what braid/tape you will use?

This will be my forth track build as i have been moving a lot lately,
hope this will be the final move, time will tell.
 

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...hi, many of the quality-sellers for braid rent the bits, too. You only pay the sharpening after use, thats it! If you didnt buy the braid yet watch Hans-Peters homepage, I think he sells international, too. Klick here for his page and maybe just contact him.
Regards Jens
 

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QUOTE (JaakBeentjes @ 13 Sep 2012, 20:19) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Did you decide on what braid/tape you will use?
I'm using 1/4" magnabraid. thought that since kids would be using at times and other occasional users this gives ability to run magnet cars.

got mine from Jim Honeycutt in the US. ([email protected])

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Ray
 
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