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The fronts look OK....
...from the top still not alot of difference...
but from the back they look very different.
The roof lines are different as well.
So are these even the same model/year car??
Fly and Scalextric Gt 40 #9
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The fronts look OK....
...from the top still not alot of difference...
but from the back they look very different.
The roof lines are different as well.
So are these even the same model/year car??
Oh, oh.... here we go again!
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...but... I love the outdoor "driveway" pics!
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...but... I love the outdoor "driveway" pics!
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To my eye, Fly get it right in some areas, Scaley in others. Overall I just like the look/feel of the scaley version over Fly (simply as it looks a bit squashed).
For ref, the real thing:
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as they say.....
The choice is yours!
For ref, the real thing:
as they say.....
The choice is yours!
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There is an interesting article in the current issue of Model Car Racing magazine, in which Robert Schleicher points out in detail that the Fly version is indeed more accurate than the Scalextric version.
On the other hand, to me, the Scalextric GT40 looks "right"; the Fly version looks too "flat".
FWIW
Kind regards
Russell
On the other hand, to me, the Scalextric GT40 looks "right"; the Fly version looks too "flat".
FWIW
Kind regards
Russell
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Just try this. Scalextric canopy/roof pasted onto Fly cockpit/ bottom.
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Can't have it both ways. The Fly car is heaps lower than the #9 car in that great Lemans photo.
Can't have it both ways. The Fly car is heaps lower than the #9 car in that great Lemans photo.
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I worked with the head R & D person when doing work on the 1/12th scale GT-40's by GMP (www.gmpdiecast.com) when they were creating the tooling for the 1/12th scale GT-40's.
There are 3 different styles of the GT-40 done so far by GMP
1967 Ford GT-40 MK IV #1
1966 Ford GT-40 MK IIB #2
1969 Ford GT-40 Mk I #6
This involved a lot of work and a lot of pictures and measuring of the originals then trying to get these to be understood by the factories in china.
Here are 2 such animals in my collection at home shown next to an Autoart Subaru 1/32nd scale slot car for size comparison...
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The black one is a preproduction prototype (hence the Chromed wheels rahter than the Gold ones) 1966 Ford GT-40 MK IIB #2- McLaren/Amon- 1966 LeMans Winner done to scale that is used for a test mule for engineering parts. It is a final preproduction sample just before the car was completed. The red one 1967 Ford GT-40 MK IV #1- Foyt/Gurney- 1967 LeMans Winner- Nbr Ltd Ed of 900 is a production version. Both highly detailed.
While this in no way says I am an expert, you have to understand one thing in so far as the racing versions go. The actual shapes are in no way the same as they once were when first raced. Every one of the cars underwent some type of body modification for better aerodynamics and/or downforce as time went on. While the general body shapes were retained, they are not exact as one would think.
My opinion is that while neither are 100% correct, the Scalextric versions are closer in body but the Fly wheels are pretty much right on the money. The bodies on the Flys are much to flat across the hood and tops of the fenders...especially in the Fly GT-40's done after the Gulf series with the bad chassis. Tire and wheel detail on the Fly is far superior to the Scaley though. From a scale perspective, the overall size and shape of the tires on the Fly Gulf liveried cars is right on the money with the wheels being perfect in their design from what I can see.
Just my opinion.
There are 3 different styles of the GT-40 done so far by GMP
1967 Ford GT-40 MK IV #1
1966 Ford GT-40 MK IIB #2
1969 Ford GT-40 Mk I #6
This involved a lot of work and a lot of pictures and measuring of the originals then trying to get these to be understood by the factories in china.
Here are 2 such animals in my collection at home shown next to an Autoart Subaru 1/32nd scale slot car for size comparison...
The black one is a preproduction prototype (hence the Chromed wheels rahter than the Gold ones) 1966 Ford GT-40 MK IIB #2- McLaren/Amon- 1966 LeMans Winner done to scale that is used for a test mule for engineering parts. It is a final preproduction sample just before the car was completed. The red one 1967 Ford GT-40 MK IV #1- Foyt/Gurney- 1967 LeMans Winner- Nbr Ltd Ed of 900 is a production version. Both highly detailed.
While this in no way says I am an expert, you have to understand one thing in so far as the racing versions go. The actual shapes are in no way the same as they once were when first raced. Every one of the cars underwent some type of body modification for better aerodynamics and/or downforce as time went on. While the general body shapes were retained, they are not exact as one would think.
My opinion is that while neither are 100% correct, the Scalextric versions are closer in body but the Fly wheels are pretty much right on the money. The bodies on the Flys are much to flat across the hood and tops of the fenders...especially in the Fly GT-40's done after the Gulf series with the bad chassis. Tire and wheel detail on the Fly is far superior to the Scaley though. From a scale perspective, the overall size and shape of the tires on the Fly Gulf liveried cars is right on the money with the wheels being perfect in their design from what I can see.
Just my opinion.
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Try this to size it up...the original clay model of the GT-40...
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wonderful clay model pic brian! hadn't seen that before.
Looks like the original 1964 version of the nose, which was substantially changed before the 1966 and later versions of the car that have recently appeared as slot cars. Sure you know that, just pointing it out to others who are comparing their slot cars with the latest pic!
Looks like the original 1964 version of the nose, which was substantially changed before the 1966 and later versions of the car that have recently appeared as slot cars. Sure you know that, just pointing it out to others who are comparing their slot cars with the latest pic!
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