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I have been informed that the chassis on the GT40 on the next release is to be changed to correct issues with the first one.

Have the latest GT40 here...

Ain't pretty...regardless of any scale issues...she ain't gonna run folks. If tire rub on the body scores points for scale accuracy...this car wins car of the year.

I am to have a new chassis car come Tuesday to test and see the changes made...

I think this important to buyers who really want to run this car and not spend half the day fixing it.??

Details coming soon...
 

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If Fly would like to send us a new chassis to look at, we'll add it to our review. Seeing as we had to use the Dremel on the body to get everything to fit, turn and run, they could send us a new one too please.

 

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Blimey, didn't realise that it was that bad - shocking stuff.


So basically without a major overhaul, the Gulf set is next to useless to run?

Ok, appreciate the majority of Gulf sets will be shelved, but anyone who wishes to run a Gulf coloured car...
 

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Jamie, I think it is more hit and miss than the fact they are ALL bad, there are reports in the USA - Gene Molson for example, says his run great out of the box.

I have to clear something up and eat abit of humble pie here (but only a little!
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In my review I stated these were shelf queens, designed and built as such, with not alot of chance for running on a slot track.

That was hasty and ill conceived - sorry Fly, I did you no favours there - here is why..

I raced my Number 9 last night in Zürich and won 7 out of 8 heats outright. Not bad for a car I said was a dog


how?

Ok, first I DID have to do some work on the car (all cars have to be worked on to be competitive, regardless of make or series), but the simplest actually gave the best overall result - I shaved a little from the inside of the front arches and stopped the wheels binding.

The GT40 requires way more than any other Fly Classic and this is why I say only a little humble pie is to be consumed.

Apart from the usual tuning tricks - oil running gear, glue loose parts, true tryes some etc etc..

I did the following..

1 - Replaced the oversized (oversized for racing NOT looks - they lift the guide height as is) front tyres with Pink Kar low profiles. Part Number - RV-003


2 - I fitted a 'cut down and shaved to fit' Slot.It guide. Part number SICH06


3 - Apart from gluing the loose rear wheel on, I trued the rear tyres which was alot more effective and alot easier with the new compound rubber. I DID find I also had to glue the rubber to the rims and they were slipping though.

4 - I also added 7 grams of weight behind the guide, easy access for which is given by the neat (also missed in the review) removeable front scoop assembly..


5 - One thing I did point out in the review as a weakness was borne out during my racing fray - The interior tray detached from the bodywork at the rear (see pic above), meaning the chassis was held via two seperate parts of the car. I had removed the interior tray earlier to do the cockpit and chassis mods Nuro talks of in the review, I also removed the front nose lip that seated the chassis and trimmed some from the sides, front and rear of the chassis all round. This gave a little extra body roll, enough to compliment the built in rear roll.

So, with all this work I have a sure winner with a balanced, stable and fast car, showing great breaking ability.
However the work above is over and above the usual so for now, for the layman, I think the GT40 remains a shelf queen. I hope the rumours of a new chassis on the next issue are true and that they address the downsides.
 

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They tried but a wheel fell off!


Sorry I couldn't resist. Since I fiddle with most of my cars this isn't really a big deal but I shudder to think about a novice buying one of these cars. Seeing them side to side for the first time in person and they really look different. The Fly definitly looks wider and lower to me. The wheels are a lot different also.
 

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Only today I got my first look at all three of the Fly Gulf GT40s alongside their Scalextric equivalents and there is a surprisingly obvious difference in the nose-on appearance. I hesitate to say which is closer to the original. I suspect it is the Scalextric, though I think I actually prefer the 'look' of the Fly!

The owner refused to run any of them - he reckons they are going to be highly prized collectors' pieces and his are destined for the shelf. This is a shame as I would like to see the two makes in direct competition with each other on the track.
 

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QUOTE he reckons they are going to be highly prized collectors' pieces and his are destined for the shelf.

With release numbers as high as they are nowadays and the fact nearly everyone who buys this set is thinking the same.... I think it is a waste not to run them but time will tell I guess.

Astro - this chassis change thing is only a rumour from the States, there is no hard evidence yet. Maybe it is just wishful thinking.
 

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Sorry to revise an old thread, but I may be able to help - anyone with an old chassis that they have had to modify or that they have not bothered modifying yet - have no fear!

Email me your name and address and I will happily send you a replacement new chassi free of charge - the vicious rumour from the states was quite correct, and Fly have admitted there was a problem, hence the free replacements.

P.S. No, I don't want the old chassis sent back to me!

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QUOTE (DogFish @ 10 Feb 2004, 10:27 PM)Hi,
Are the 'old' chassis only on the Gulf versions, or does this also include the Jarama RED livery?

Thanks,
I beleive the Jamara Red version is the new chassis.

And yes, it would be nice to have a contact for FLY here in the states. I understand that concerns are taken back to FLY via Scalextric.

I got the new BMW the other day and the front axles are a mess. ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE! Since they had to mold and cast a new chassis, they could have setup the motor to sit back less than a 1/4 inch and use a straight axle rather than these bogus 1/2 shaft axles,,,the car would run much better without the front tires rubbing the wheel wells.

C'mon Fly...15 minutes more of attention will create greater sales...the detail in the bodies is great...let's get the running gear up to the same standards!!!
 

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If you are in the USA, you should go back to your dealer or otherwise the distriburors are Scalextric-USA or REH Distribution. Telephone numbers are (I think) 01 253 572 0530 for Scalextric USA and 01 513 871 2813 for REH.

If you don't have any joy with them, come back to me and I will see if I can arrange anything from here.

Brian is quite right, the Jamara is the new chassis but the same applies, if you have a problem with one email me your address and I will post you a replacement chassis.

As for Fly swatting TSRF, perhaps we can arrange an smilie icon for that! LOL!

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QUOTE the vicious rumour from the states was quite correct, and Fly have admitted there was a problem, hence the free replacements.

Straight from the BBC?


The vicious US retailers are offering the same service to anyone who got one of the BUM (oooops!) bum chassis.
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PdL
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What is wrong with the chassis?

I know the gear is differnt on the gulf and jarama cars. Interesting that they would do a run of the car with one chassis and a week later change to a differnt one. The jarama car followed the gulf closely.

Thats far too little time to identify that there is a problem and correct. They must have released the gulf cars knowing there was a problem.

So is there a problem? Anything some glue cant fix?
 
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