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Just had to show the new Fly A205 Chrysler Viper Valencia 2004. With your local dealer within the next couple of days.
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QUOTE Also the A261 Saleen (pictured on the Gaugemaster web site)
Aaron is the pic on the GM site of a production car or a pre-production sample? The reason I ask, Is because it's got the wrong wheels on it
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This car, the VitaPhone Saleen, has always run with BBS style wheels as fitted to the recently released ORECA Viper....
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...Thinks.... Are the Oreca Viper wheels available in the UK as a spare yet?
Should be a straight swap.... Hmmmm......
-Rob
Aaron is the pic on the GM site of a production car or a pre-production sample? The reason I ask, Is because it's got the wrong wheels on it
pic Copyright DPPI
...Thinks.... Are the Oreca Viper wheels available in the UK as a spare yet?
Should be a straight swap.... Hmmmm......
-Rob
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@rr3.9 - you are quite right of course, they are the wrong wheels on the Saleen. I have checked with Fly and done some testing myself here at Gaugemaster, and the problem is that none of the wheels - not even the Oreca Viper wheels - are quite right. As you can see, from the side the car looks great with the correct wheels...
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but in reality the front axle is now too long and the rear one too short, both due to the different depth that the axle goes into the wheel. Also, on the front, the moulding at the rear of the Viper wheel is longer and so this pushes the wheel away from the chassis because usually the rear of a Sallen wheel is virtually flush with the chassis.
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I tried a few varients, but I did not go as far as physically modifying the pieces, although I guess with a little skill you could get the Oreca wheels to fit the front, but you would need a new rear axle as the saleen one is too short (if fitted with Viper wheels) and the Viper one will also be too short, and you still have the Viper rear-of-wheels length to modify too!
Production wise, it is obviously not viable to make a complete set of wheels just for one varient of a model, as the Saleen normally has 5 spoke wheels. Fly apologise, but felt it best and more sensible in this instance to run the model with the incorrect wheel rims.
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P.S. Incidentally, the A84 Viper Oreca came with BBS rims, spare parts numbers 79213 and 79214. The A205 Valencia version comes with OZ rims which are Fly part numbers 79215 and 79216.
but in reality the front axle is now too long and the rear one too short, both due to the different depth that the axle goes into the wheel. Also, on the front, the moulding at the rear of the Viper wheel is longer and so this pushes the wheel away from the chassis because usually the rear of a Sallen wheel is virtually flush with the chassis.
I tried a few varients, but I did not go as far as physically modifying the pieces, although I guess with a little skill you could get the Oreca wheels to fit the front, but you would need a new rear axle as the saleen one is too short (if fitted with Viper wheels) and the Viper one will also be too short, and you still have the Viper rear-of-wheels length to modify too!
Production wise, it is obviously not viable to make a complete set of wheels just for one varient of a model, as the Saleen normally has 5 spoke wheels. Fly apologise, but felt it best and more sensible in this instance to run the model with the incorrect wheel rims.
Aaron
P.S. Incidentally, the A84 Viper Oreca came with BBS rims, spare parts numbers 79213 and 79214. The A205 Valencia version comes with OZ rims which are Fly part numbers 79215 and 79216.
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Hi Aaron!
Thanks for the excellent feedback/investigative work
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Above and beyond the call of duty as usual
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I WILL be getting the VitaPhone Saleen, and with the help of your notes and observations re: the wheels, I will make an informed decision from there...
Cheers!
-Rob
Thanks for the excellent feedback/investigative work
I WILL be getting the VitaPhone Saleen, and with the help of your notes and observations re: the wheels, I will make an informed decision from there...
Cheers!
-Rob
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Oh yes, and in the afternoons I get the pit babes round to act as marshals on my 300ft club circuit with inbuilt bar.................
Sorry, dreaming there for a moment
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Sorry, dreaming there for a moment
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Hi, Just got the new Viper (A84).
For those who think that a new viper was unnecessary or a waste of time, I just advise them to pay a visit to their dealer to check the matter by themselves ... But I warn them as well : they are likely to come back home with that new viper under their arms ...
So what's been changed ?
As already shown on pictures, all the different holes present in the body of the real car are featured on the model as well : we're talking about the front bonnet, the space behind the front bonnet, air intakes on both rear sides and the holes at the back of the car. Great job indeed ! I especially missed the hole between the front bonnet and the doors.
Detail has been added : air extractor at the rear, new rear wing, new mirrors (I think !), much better looking exhaust pipes, new wheels with superb brake disks, air deflectors on the front bonnet, front grille, central lights, fuel caps in the rear window, detailed rear lights, a connector at the rear, front and rear hooks, and ... the most intricate interior ever found on a slot car
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Truly amazing !
It took a long time to appear on our shelves but I can tell you that it was really worth the wait !
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For those who think that a new viper was unnecessary or a waste of time, I just advise them to pay a visit to their dealer to check the matter by themselves ... But I warn them as well : they are likely to come back home with that new viper under their arms ...
So what's been changed ?
As already shown on pictures, all the different holes present in the body of the real car are featured on the model as well : we're talking about the front bonnet, the space behind the front bonnet, air intakes on both rear sides and the holes at the back of the car. Great job indeed ! I especially missed the hole between the front bonnet and the doors.
Detail has been added : air extractor at the rear, new rear wing, new mirrors (I think !), much better looking exhaust pipes, new wheels with superb brake disks, air deflectors on the front bonnet, front grille, central lights, fuel caps in the rear window, detailed rear lights, a connector at the rear, front and rear hooks, and ... the most intricate interior ever found on a slot car
It took a long time to appear on our shelves but I can tell you that it was really worth the wait !
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I have mine with lights...
It doesn't only look very good... it Fly's as well... (yes you read it well...)
The car broke my Petit Spa lap record... and it's stunning in the dark... I haven't seen bright lights like that before...
It's a supercar...
Well done Fly
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Greetz
Gunther
It doesn't only look very good... it Fly's as well... (yes you read it well...)
The car broke my Petit Spa lap record... and it's stunning in the dark... I haven't seen bright lights like that before...
It's a supercar...
Well done Fly
Greetz
Gunther
I got my Team07 set and the A84 in the mail today, and the cars look stunning!
Fly has certainly taken the detail level to another level on these cars. Like fast lucky say; it's amazing!
Those cars won't be used on the track, and I would prefer a different livery instead of another Oreca to race, so I'm very eagerly awaiting the A205 now.
André
Fly has certainly taken the detail level to another level on these cars. Like fast lucky say; it's amazing!
Those cars won't be used on the track, and I would prefer a different livery instead of another Oreca to race, so I'm very eagerly awaiting the A205 now.
André
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I eagerly await a lot of new liveries, even some not yet announced by Fly !
That said, I found something a little weird on those Oreca vipers ... (Ok, you really have to look very hard to find something wrong but I found ...) :
As I mentionned before, the exhaust pipes look really realistic. They are now placed just beneath the middle of the door instead of being just in front of the rear wheels. The thing is that those Oreca vipers still had the long exhaust pipes (in front of the rear wheels) in 1998, the shorter ones (middle of the door) were brought the year after, in 1999.
I hear you say that FLY cannot adapt their body to every particular livery being produced and I fully agree with you. The weird thing is that Oreca still used the same paint scheme on their vipers in 1999 ... So, Fly could have choosen the 1999 cars instead and there wouldn't have been that slight mistake.
That said, I found something a little weird on those Oreca vipers ... (Ok, you really have to look very hard to find something wrong but I found ...) :
As I mentionned before, the exhaust pipes look really realistic. They are now placed just beneath the middle of the door instead of being just in front of the rear wheels. The thing is that those Oreca vipers still had the long exhaust pipes (in front of the rear wheels) in 1998, the shorter ones (middle of the door) were brought the year after, in 1999.
I hear you say that FLY cannot adapt their body to every particular livery being produced and I fully agree with you. The weird thing is that Oreca still used the same paint scheme on their vipers in 1999 ... So, Fly could have choosen the 1999 cars instead and there wouldn't have been that slight mistake.
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Hmmm, I have just read the HRW review - he wants to get some facts straight and a little less comments such as "FLY has spewed out over forty different Viper paint schemes" may make him a little more credible.
I think it is time that someone from SF did a review on the new Viper - any volunteers?
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I think it is time that someone from SF did a review on the new Viper - any volunteers?
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Astro,
I really expect Fly to produce a second "Oreca Team" set, but it is likely to be the vipers that raced in 2000, the cars being red that time.
I really expect Fly to produce a second "Oreca Team" set, but it is likely to be the vipers that raced in 2000, the cars being red that time.
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