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Flyslot Toy Fair 2012 Report

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Flyslot (ex Fly Model Cars) are back and they have some great products on show with their two brands: Flyslot and Alpha Series.

We have talked about this before, but we haven't seen it done on a large scale. Flyslot are producing a car with a sound decoder and speaker built in. Sure it's the first one with a basic sound, but the plans for future versions are great. Sound linked to throttle, G-force activated tyre squeals and custom sound uploads. But for now the car on offer that will be shipping in a few weeks looks great and sounds great and the price is very affordable. I'll put up a video in the next few days.











































































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How can grown men get excited by this... if its not even linked to the throttle , thats aweful at least do it properly.... just my opinion
Basically great idea, but we'll have to experience live to give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down.

Sound is something that I'm looking forward to, but I expected at least the sound to be linked to the throttle.

I am wondering what it will be without that link. Another issue is the quality of sound itself.

I think I will give it a go to make my mind.
Sounds? Nah. I've run an car-sound website for 11 years (enginemusic.com) and consider myself a car sound geek. I think this is a terrible idea. The tiny speaker will always sound tinny. The sound WILL get annoying. It works in model RR as the sounds are more constant and the emphasis is on a different type of realism.

I wish manufacturers would just concentrate on making the wheels round and the gears mesh. Please.

I think the only major advances to be made in slot cars are in the controllers - telemetry for the nerds who want to squeeze the last thou out of a lap time.
Sounds like a great idea!


seriously though, kinda gimmicky and really should be throttle linked ....... but will keep my ears open for working reviews before condemning the whole idea!
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Sound has been available for model trains for a while. Early on, people were obsessed with synchronising the 'chuff' with the wheel position (and thus piston position). To do this they used to add disks to the inside of the driving wheels with black and white stripes printed on them. Then an opto-diode under the loco would pick up the wheel movement and produce the chuff accordingly. These days, it is much more common to link the motor output voltage and back emf to the chuffing sound and it works quite well. It gives a very satisfactory effect whilst not perfectly synchronising the chuff to the piston position - anyway when moving, it is virtually impossible to see any error.

With cars, you have the revving motor and then the gear changes. We don't change gears on slotcars so one would have to link up-shifting to acceleration and down-shifting to breaking - but how would that work on a small home track with plenty of corners - most of us flutter the controller ans we wiz around the track. I doubt that realistic driving sounds would be achievable linked to throttle etc, but I think that these simulated sounds may be interesting all the same.

We'll see when the car is on the track. A review will be forthcoming in a few weeks.
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Not sure whether I'm for or against this... will have to see (or should I say hear) one at the Slot Fest UK to decide I suppose.
I'm actually more concerned about the extra weight!

ABBO
I remember when I was 11 having a playing card attached to my bike frame by a peg and sticking into the spokes to get a "motorbike" sound. Similar?
I think the sound decoder has potential if it could be linked to controller/throttle/braking response. And finally - a Panoz Esperante!
Great job from Fly! And It ain't even April first ! I totally agree with Doug, throttle related won't work on our home tracks. What will work (for me at least) is the sound in the video, added sound for downshift when you brake and revving engine when you stand still. I just hope It will be compatible with digital, besides room for the chip. Did anyone ask ?
I would have preferred it if they had returned to putting their excellent lighting system back in the cars, rather than this!
QUOTE (Ed. @ 5 Feb 2012, 00:14) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would have preferred it if they had returned to putting their excellent lighting system back in the cars, rather than this!

Exactly. And instead of the newest 917 being a cheap Alpha range slotcar with lots of troubles, why not a racing version with EVO3 motor pod, aluminium wheels and lights?
I haven't seen anything about the Brabham BT-18 formula 1 car that was in one of their advance issue brochures last year. Any word on what is happening with it?

Bill
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Sound


If its linked to gear quality it should sound like... phutt phutt phutt bang!

Lets hope they can add a smoke generator so the car bellows smoke when the crown gets stripped of all its teeth!
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the racer 935-77 isn,t in the sideways range, its the full monty £200 job. john
I love it all. And with sound, it can only improve the fun.

I am really intrigued by the 'new chassis concept' inline mabuchi......what ever will they think of next!
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I guess I like the new chassis, but the only real problems with their older stuff were the stub axles, general build quality, and almost useless tires.

Seems that investing a few bucks in quality workmanship and a few modifications would have paid off more...
QUOTE (capnfutile @ 4 Feb 2012, 16:53) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sounds? Nah. I've run an car-sound website for 11 years (enginemusic.com) and consider myself a car sound geek. I think this is a terrible idea. The tiny speaker will always sound tinny. The sound WILL get annoying.
Agreed - a small speaker like this doesn't have the frequency response (even with a tube after it) to mimic a rumbling V8, but it might be ok for a screaming racer and squealing tyres.

In the early 1980s I had the Scalextric sound system, along with the think tank and fuel tank, it was fun for a while but I was pleased you could switch it off, and most of the time it was off. As a kid, exact realism matters less so perhaps it won't be as annoying as watching a film where the car makes constant upward gearchanges

QUOTE (capnfutile @ 4 Feb 2012, 16:53) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I wish manufacturers would just concentrate on making the wheels round and the gears mesh. Please.
That would be a tricky one for a marketing headline. "Buy our new slot cars with wheels that are actually round"
"Errr, weren't your wheels round before?"
"We'd rather not say"


QUOTE (capnfutile @ 4 Feb 2012, 16:53) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the only major advances to be made in slot cars are in the controllers - telemetry for the nerds who want to squeeze the last thou out of a lap time.
That's maybe true to make racers faster, but for making cars fun there's lots of things they could do
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In the first picture in post number one it shows a clean (not muddy) Fiat Punto that has white wording for the name Vodaphone. But the models in the shops dont show this white wording. Can we get the white wording version?
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I have in recent times become a big fan of the Fly(slot) classic F1 cars. I always liked them and originally bought a couple but now I am buying more and more and have a desire to collect them all (but don't tell the bank manager!).

I find it strange that at the major toy fair of the year they do not show a car (or even a picture of it) that two weeks later they announce.
(The Belgium Grand Prix Lotus 78.)
Therefore I live in hope that the Brabham might still make an appearance. The Renault however, I think is long gone and will never materialise.

Philip
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Mmm... not so sure about all the extra weight of the speaker etc.. ... especially since these are going to be raced, right.
I think it more practical to have the speaker either somewhere on the main straight input or within the hand throttle. RMS (race management systems ) should take care of all the braking cornering effects etc...

Great incentive for the Scaley SSDC RMS.
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