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Moped needs to understand that if it's a one-man judging panel, then he cannot be trusted to judge his own ideas. This would seem to be a no-brainer (Insert your own joke here)

Also, does anyone else think that Moped was given a task by his boss, and will use our ideas for his own?
OK, perhaps I'm a bit paranoid...


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I think that Hornby could produce cars that run properly without magnets and they should ditch the guide shroud.



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PS I actually believe that the above statement which was what Moped didn't want demonstrates that he didn't want ideas but wanted his own prejudices confirmed.
 

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I am very confident that if Mr Jeffrey reads Slotforum and picks up on any of the original ideas presented here then the author of the idea will receive an appropriate acknowledgment and maybe even a few freebies!


Even an invite to the London Toy Fair and some special attention!



Moped

PS they do still gets marks out of 10 however. Anything that scores 10 will almost certainly be bought to the attention of the powers that be. The "Star Wars" landspeeder idea, although seen by some as a funny, is certainly very original and you never know.
 

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Or we could just keep this all a little bit sensible, share quality info about the hobby, be acknowledged and respected by all the manufacturers and derive pleasure from expanding our enjoyment of the hobby?
 

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If the intention is to give ideas to scalextric, wouldn't a better place be on scalextric's own 'suggestions' message board? That way your ideas will go straight to the movers and shakers in scalextric, without moped filtering out the ones he doesnt like by using his vote power.

I am also sure that scalextric read ALL the ideas here and make up their own minds, whatever Moped might vote. (especially after Moped told them to make moto-GP and the fiasco that has lead to)
 

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QUOTE especially after Moped told them to make moto-GP and the fiasco that has lead to

I wish!

The very high level of interest shown at Donnington the other day suggests that MotoGP will be a very successful fiasco bringing new folk into the hobby. Not everybody has a love of cars. To put the costs into perspective I went into a specialist die-cast store when on holiday in France and discovered that highly detailed and limited die-cast models (not the typical volume Burago stuff) can be much more costly than the typical slot car or slot bike.

Remember that limited edition slot cars can be upwards of £150 retail.

The USA market does seem to be more adult orientated for the moment. Mr Jeffrey should consider ways to bring more of the young folk of the USA into the hobby. And the USA folk, unlike the Brits, do in the main seem to like tinkering with their slot cars. So maybe there should be an emphasise in the USA market on the fun aspects of tuning your cars to make them go faster.

Scalextric sets should be produced for the USA market that come complete with a vaste range of tuning and set up spares and a tool kit. I do not know how the law stands in the USA but you are not legally allowed to do this in Europe and sell the product as a toy. Scalextric could also licence the TSRF chassis and produce a whole range around this. They already do the Hornby Kits and the TSRF chassis is ideal for these.

Even Mr TSRF would agree with a score of 10/10 for this idea!



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QUOTE I think that Hornby could produce cars that run properly without magnets and they should ditch the guide shroud.

I do appreciate that this comes up again and again (and again!) but could somebody please explain for the benefit of Mr Jeffrey how this would help him to achieve his goals in the overseas markets, which is to expand them?

Are you saying that Hornby would gain market share relative to competitors among current hobbyists if they did this?

I am not too sure if Mr Jeffrey's brief covers capturing market share but if it does then the above would be relevent. It is more about encouraging folk not already in the hobby to join the hobby if I read it right.


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Hmmm.... I'll explain!

RACERS want to go FAST. If HORNBY make FAST cars then RACERS will buy them. Therefore HORNBY make more MONEY. Scarily enough, some AMERICANS are RACERS too, so will buy these FAST cars.

Please tell me how you couldn't have worked this out yourself.

What's the primary reason for buying Slot.It cars? 'Cos they look good? I think not.

Make a fast non-mag car and I'll buy it.


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Hi Moped, Hi All,

Interesting that a locked thread can pic up and reinvent itself in a NEW thread... cool!

Of course ALL manufacturers and their representatives read this board and others similar to it.

Its FREE qualitative research from the "Brand Adorers" segment (to borrow a Diageo term for the most passionate and loyal customers of a brand) so what's written here is very valuable.

For exampe, Johnny Average isn't going to point out that Mr. Blobby Head looks stupid and that the driver in a modern DTM should be wearing a full helmet not an open face job, but they'll sure hear about it here!

Why do you think we all saw those pre-production models from Scaley of the 1950's F1s...?!

So unless you have your own commercial interest in terms of slot ideas and products, adding your 2¢ to the debate can only have a positive effect on the overall hobby.

THE BIG CHALLENGE for Mr. Jeffrey is that for all the good advice he receives here regarding current product line, detail improvements, handling tweaks, etc is that FIXING these only will satisfy and impress on the CURRENT market.

The task for Hornby is to exponentially blow the doors off American growth!

And that's where MYOPIA can set in - fix this guide here, make the power to magnet force ratio perfect there introduce this line of historic racers and its DONE growth will follow - but that's just not really true in the BIG picture.

On this side of the pond, Slot Cars are a marginal toy product and a niche hobby at best. They fall into the Toy Cars category for some (kids mostly) and the Active Modelling category for others (grown up kids like us!).

REAL Growth will come when Scalextric moves from obscure toy car brand into the mainstream like Hot Wheels, YuGiOh, Barbie, etc.

My measly 7/10 from yesterday has more truth and value in it than Mr Moded acknowledges.

NASCAR + WALMART + SCALEXTRIC DIGITAL = BREAK THROUGH IN N.A. (Short Term)

SCALEXTRIC TANSFORMATION INTO "THE ULTIMATE MOVING TOY/MODEL CAR BRAND - Both Virtual and Tactile (Long Term)

I'll save my Dear Mr Jeffrey, I'm here and available to consult note for a direct correspondence.

Best all!

Ken R
 

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Hornby are not a Mattel or a Hasbro and there lies the most basic problem for the above.

Model trains - simple. They do not compete with any other product for $$$, they have to run on rails, come in various scales and there is compatibility for a given scale among manufactures. And there are a very clear national interests.

Slot cars - complicated. They compete with RC, Die-cast and Kits for $$$ and there is little compatibility among manufacturers aside from the fact that most slot cars can run on any one brand of track. Also there are a multitude of different race classes globally leading to a split of interests among hobbyists both regionally and nationally and even from one town to the next.

The big advantage that Hornby and one or two other companies have is that they have been in the marketplace for a very long time, understand the market (one would think), and are coming up with initiatives.

Mr Jeffrey no doubt has been charged with how best to place those initiatives into the marketplace. Is a pure NASCAR initiative really the right avenue for the USA?

Hornby remember also have a big INDY RACING LEAGUE stable now and that appears to have been overlooked.


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QUOTE (Ken R @ 20 Aug 2004, 16:24)Interesting that a locked thread can pic up and reinvent itself in a NEW thread... cool!
The last topic began to get sour with abusive posts that were removed. If this one remains clean and on the subject, then let it continue.
 

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Thanks Nuro.

The Moderators on this Board are the best in the business, you guys do a superb job of keeping this board going and keeping it valuable.

I for one appreciate what it is that you do!

Best,

Ken R
 
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