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Four lane lap counting with the Magic ARC app

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Historically it was possible to create four lane lap counting solutions with the APB C7042 by connecting additional phototransistors for panes 3 and 4 by parallel wiring them with the phototransistors already in place for lanes 1 and 2. The connections are made collector-to-coloector and emitter-to-emitter.

This approach is not possible with the ARC PRO due to the configuration of the sensors.

However, if a number of conditions are met... and the ARC PRO sensors are placed into an APB-compatibility mode, a four lane digital start/finish line can be implemented.

Requirements:

1/ the ARC PRO must be v0.4 or if v0.3 then the resistor swap-out to 510 Ohms must be carried out.
2/ the APB-compatibility modification must be carried out as per the link: https://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=196039&p=2340293
3/ the lane 3 and 4 four sensors are each a pair of parallel wired VEMT2000X01 phototransistors.
4/ the four lane solution functions only with the Magic unofficial ARC app, though two lane compatibility with the Hornby ARC app is retained.
5/ race speeds while crossing the S/F line must be kept below about 4m/s (precise limit to be determined)... so avoid placing on long straights.

So first the theory... the following graphs are sensor read-outs for a car on ID6 travelling at approx 1.2-1.4m/s.


Figure 1: standard ARC PRO ID sensor readout - stay straight.


Figure 2: standard ARC PRO ID sensor readout - LC.


Figure 3: Car traversing ARC PRO ID sensor on lane 1 - stay straight - (with VEMT sensor parallel wired on lane 3).


Figure 4: Car traversing ARC PRO ID sensor on lane 1) - LC - (with VEMT sensor parallel wired on lane 3).


Figure 5: Car traversing VEMT2000X01 ID sensor on lane 3 - stay straight - (with ARC PRO sensor parallel wired on lane 1).


Figure 6: Car traversing VEMT2000X01 ID sensor on lane 3 - LC - (with ARC PRO sensor parallel wired on lane 1).

Without going into lots of technical details at this point... the graphs show the parallel wiring is functioning nicely....

C
 

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#3 · (Edited by Moderator)
Once the simple modification to enable APB-mode has been applied... the modification for four lane sensing is straight forward...

1/ add a header socket to the ARC PRO sensor board as shown below and solder so that the two outer terminals auto connect to GND (OV) then wire the inner two terminals to the collectors of the phototransistors for lanes 1 and 2.





2/ then build a sensor array for lanes 3 and 4.



In this case the track piece for lanes 3 and 4 was taken from a donor 4 car powerbase.

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#8 ·
Many thanks for pointing this one out DR_C and a big thank you to making the whole process look so easy.
Very well presented work through.
I'm pretty new to this as back in the day Scalextric was very basic. Now, picking it back up after many years "grandkids" it has changed quite a bit ='digitally' !
My task is to set up 4 lane start/finish with 4 lane lap recording using ARcPro & ARCMagic App to provide a training track for young ones.
My intention is to see if I can butcher a C7039 to provide sensors and circuitry for lanes 3 & 4, if anyone has comment on this I would be most grateful.
Once again thanks for the post.
Marty John
 
#9 · (Edited by Moderator)
A slight word of caution...

In its simplest form a track sensor is a phototransistor with a pull up resistor.

The ARC PRO puts the pull-up resistor inside the powerbase (its the 510 ohm swap-out resistor).
The APB C7042 and the C7039 have the pull-up resistor on the sensor board not in the base unit.

Mixing as parallel wired the two types of sensor boards may give problems -especially if the 510 ohm resistors are in play. Also, the APB C7042 and C7039 sensor boards add an additional signal amplification stage so require a 3.3V supply. And those lanes will have different performance reliability at speed.

Better to borrow a second board from a donor ARC PRO. Or alternatively to use a self build VEMT2001 based dual sensor as I show above. A third option if you dont want to build the VEMT2001 yourself... I could put two pairs of VEMT sensors onto a spare PCB and send to you.

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#10 ·
Hi Dr_C
Well! Im overwhelmed with your support, thank you. Option 1 seems to be a crude attempt but I did think that removing the onboard resistance would help compatibility. But your option 3 would be most welcome as resourcing a donor power base is quite difficult. Please let me know how you would like me to proceed, perhaps a PM might be a good start?
Many thanks
Marty John
PS I now know that my ArcPro power base is V0.4 (Sunset Race Set). The sensor board is v0.3!