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It might be a good idea to start a new thread on the possible endurance race, of course it would probably be an even better idea to ask Dave H and Tony M whether they're happy with this.
Future races at HONK?
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Okay, just a few thoughts on this:
Firstly, 3 minutes at HONK is an endurance race for our usual Pro-mods. That track makes lasting 6 x 3 minutes a real challenge
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I like the idea of a longer race that uses the Eahorc Pro-mod rules - essentially anything goes except for the armature and tyres - because it gets people building a car with both speed and staying power. As Marc said, the parts are lying around in the UK already.
Crucially, it's getting the right magnets in the car. But who knows what chassis would be best? Anything from a Slottech to a Tyco 440 or Tomy Turbo
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Alternatively we could run Eahorc Pro-Mod rules and insist on brass weights instead of traction magnets. It's just a thought...
As for timing. I would pass on an August meeting, it just doesn't work for me. An extra meeting squeezed in could be tricky too. Don't forget the AFX 6 hours is now an important part of the calendar in July and the HO Le Mans at Derby in November.
I still like Deane's idea for this year's HONK weekend. It didn't come off this time - but now more of us have experienced Tony & Dave's HO paradise (and some of us have been twice), does not the idea of a couple of races on the Saturday afternoon, a night on the town and the usual Sunday racing sound like a tasty annual highlight?
It does to me
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Firstly, 3 minutes at HONK is an endurance race for our usual Pro-mods. That track makes lasting 6 x 3 minutes a real challenge
I like the idea of a longer race that uses the Eahorc Pro-mod rules - essentially anything goes except for the armature and tyres - because it gets people building a car with both speed and staying power. As Marc said, the parts are lying around in the UK already.
Crucially, it's getting the right magnets in the car. But who knows what chassis would be best? Anything from a Slottech to a Tyco 440 or Tomy Turbo
Alternatively we could run Eahorc Pro-Mod rules and insist on brass weights instead of traction magnets. It's just a thought...
As for timing. I would pass on an August meeting, it just doesn't work for me. An extra meeting squeezed in could be tricky too. Don't forget the AFX 6 hours is now an important part of the calendar in July and the HO Le Mans at Derby in November.
I still like Deane's idea for this year's HONK weekend. It didn't come off this time - but now more of us have experienced Tony & Dave's HO paradise (and some of us have been twice), does not the idea of a couple of races on the Saturday afternoon, a night on the town and the usual Sunday racing sound like a tasty annual highlight?
It does to me
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Have you ever spent a night out in Chatham?
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I'm not against an Enduro or other one-off meet at HONK, although I agree 100% with everything Andy said, but I do think it should come after HONK is established as a regular local club.
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I can't do a whole weekends racing due to family commitments.
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I have spoken to Tony about an endurance race in August and we are both up for it. It would of course depend on how many would attend. With the 6 hour in July and the new eahorc season starting early September would a Honk enduro be one race too many?
I have applied for a Honk forum in the club section, when it is up and running maybe we can discuss the enduro there.
I have applied for a Honk forum in the club section, when it is up and running maybe we can discuss the enduro there.
QUOTE (trenchtownbilly @ 3 May 2012, 23:10) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have spoken to Tony about an endurance race in August and we are both up for it. It would of course depend on how many would attend. With the 6 hour in July and the new eahorc season starting early September would a Honk enduro be one race too many?
I have applied for a Honk forum in the club section, when it is up and running maybe we can discuss the enduro there.
Don't forget that there is an AVVHORA race in August too, at least I think so.
I will say the same as I said to Tony S, although he typically took it the wrong way, there are only so many weekend races one can put on as people are stretched as it is and will start picking and choosing.
Personally, I think that what HO needs is more local racing. This is an area where other scales are very strong, and HO never has been. I think that more club activity will be good for the long term future of our scale. The nationals and other weekend racing will be important too, but combined with more clubs racing regularly the scene as a whole will be solid.
For one thing there is a diversity of chassis, classes and rule possibilities beyond what we do now. This was the main reason I stuck with EAHORC, I was sick to the back teeth of only running Tycos and Super G+s. Things are much more diverse now, and clubs can really take that ethos and run with it. It is good for clubs to have a strong sense of self too, and see what they bring to the table. One only has to look at the potential of Al's timing system and Project Gareth down at WHO to see that is true.
I concede that the HONK track, now established as something unique and one of the best in the world, is a special case, and should be used more by hook or by crook. But I would, if I am honest, rather see HONK join the ranks of 'proper' clubs before it extends more weekend racing to the already discovered weekend crowd. Long term more local racing could harm EAHORC, why go away at weekends when you have place in your own area etc, but I don't think it will. I believe in there being more clubs and more club racing to take that chance anyway....
Dave - you mentioned somebody at Tony's unit knew all those local people that popped in for a look over the weekend? Time to throw a weeknight open night date out there and get the ball rolling?
I have applied for a Honk forum in the club section, when it is up and running maybe we can discuss the enduro there.
Don't forget that there is an AVVHORA race in August too, at least I think so.
I will say the same as I said to Tony S, although he typically took it the wrong way, there are only so many weekend races one can put on as people are stretched as it is and will start picking and choosing.
Personally, I think that what HO needs is more local racing. This is an area where other scales are very strong, and HO never has been. I think that more club activity will be good for the long term future of our scale. The nationals and other weekend racing will be important too, but combined with more clubs racing regularly the scene as a whole will be solid.
For one thing there is a diversity of chassis, classes and rule possibilities beyond what we do now. This was the main reason I stuck with EAHORC, I was sick to the back teeth of only running Tycos and Super G+s. Things are much more diverse now, and clubs can really take that ethos and run with it. It is good for clubs to have a strong sense of self too, and see what they bring to the table. One only has to look at the potential of Al's timing system and Project Gareth down at WHO to see that is true.
I concede that the HONK track, now established as something unique and one of the best in the world, is a special case, and should be used more by hook or by crook. But I would, if I am honest, rather see HONK join the ranks of 'proper' clubs before it extends more weekend racing to the already discovered weekend crowd. Long term more local racing could harm EAHORC, why go away at weekends when you have place in your own area etc, but I don't think it will. I believe in there being more clubs and more club racing to take that chance anyway....
Dave - you mentioned somebody at Tony's unit knew all those local people that popped in for a look over the weekend? Time to throw a weeknight open night date out there and get the ball rolling?
Hopefully HONK will have it's own section soon, and this thread can be moved there.
I'd probably go to some of the races too, regardless of which weeknight, but the core will hopefully come from the local contacts the HONK boys have made.
In fact we two plus Hannah (maybe) and the HONK duo plus John M (maybe) and a smattering of those who popped in on Sunday are enough for an open night.
In fact we two plus Hannah (maybe) and the HONK duo plus John M (maybe) and a smattering of those who popped in on Sunday are enough for an open night.
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Tony and I have discussed race nights with some locals and it is most likely we will race on the 1st and 3rd Thursday of the month. We would like to have an open evening next month on the 7th or the 21st, so i am looking into some advertising in the local press plus contacting other locals that have shown an interest.
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That's really exciting. Any help or pointers you need Dave, let me know
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At WHO, we found posters and leaflets in nearby shops, cafes and laundrettes worked. As did some posted door-to-door and to local schools & libraries. Definitely include a map! I'm happy to do a day's leg-work beforehand.
I should be able to get up for the opening night too.
At WHO, we found posters and leaflets in nearby shops, cafes and laundrettes worked. As did some posted door-to-door and to local schools & libraries. Definitely include a map! I'm happy to do a day's leg-work beforehand.
I should be able to get up for the opening night too.
I would suggest you go for the 21st. I am available either of the days after the next national to help with a leaflet drop.
Classes wise I would suggest Nascar and something based around the Mega-G, as those chassis are currently made and relatively easy to get brand new.
For the open night it would be more a case of running a variety of stuff and getting the locals up to speed so to speak.
This should be cracking. I have not had a regular club since SHORC folded, but I am more excited about what this means for HO in the UK as a whole than myself....
Classes wise I would suggest Nascar and something based around the Mega-G, as those chassis are currently made and relatively easy to get brand new.
For the open night it would be more a case of running a variety of stuff and getting the locals up to speed so to speak.
This should be cracking. I have not had a regular club since SHORC folded, but I am more excited about what this means for HO in the UK as a whole than myself....
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