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after all the years of suffering being called a miserable old bar-steward by mrs zz , I am finally rejoicing that she has come round to my way of thinking. the source of this wonderment?... a newly found joint loathing of the foul phenomenon of otherwise seemingly intelligent individuals starting a sentence with the word "so"!!!! if you have been asked , "how do you propose to re-attach that button"? , or , "what method would you use to distribute seed in your garden" , fair enough but otherwise , nooooooooooo! other current hot favourites are "yoofs" with their kecks hanging out the top of their trousers and newly qualified drivers with a green p plate (clearly designating pillock) who refuse to commit to crossing a roundabout without having received a written invitation at least a fortnight in advance! what gets your hackles up?
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^ We had a genius once who sold the company on stopping the issue of $4 propelling pencils in favour of cheaper wooded pencils. Within a few months, almost everyone had a $15 electric pencil sharpener on their desk.
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Ah Harry what a plonker Rodney, my dad served in the 2nd world war in the desert and in the d day landings and he never said anything about any of it except to say he lost good mates, perhaps H should really keep g---b shut and pen in pocket.
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I don't care what the Royals do as long as they don't frighten the horses.
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Piggin’ PIN numbers 😡

Can I remember the bastards now everything’s tap-to-pay?!?

Think I’ll go back to cash . . .
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I've stuck to the same P.I.N since God was a lad........... Not that I use it for anything except for getting cash from A.T.Ms, and I wouldn't even have to do that if my nearest Bank branch was open more than 3 hours a day, 3 days a week. :mad:
My younger stepsons fiancee thinks I hate her because I leave the living room when they arrive. Well, I understand its good manners/etiquette/an old law to offer visitors a beverage and we keep the kettle, mugs, milk and teabags in the KITCHEN, not next to the sofa.
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Unfortunately, Matthew, young people in the 2020s seem to get a kick out of finding "hate" in everyday life. :rolleyes:
It seems to be their idea of sport.
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Most people who arrive at our gaff, whether invited or not, turn around and leave immediately if they spot the presence of one battered old Land Rover belonging to uncle Bonkers on the drive/garden/washing line/tree stump/dustbin...
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(She is actually correct though, I can't stand her) 🤫
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For the past 12 months I've driven to collect groceries each week in a car dumped on us by the kids when they moved to the Far East. I have so little interest in modern cars nowadays, that I can't accurately remember what it's called.

It's also quite satisfying that I don't care, either.
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I don't know when "mini roundabouts" first arrived on UK roads, but I was first aware of them in the '70s. So why is it that, 50-odd years on, drivers still aren't sure how to correctly negotiate the infernal things? o_O
even ordinary roundabouts - so many people start indicating to leave two exits early. Never trust an indicator is my motto now....
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I've always had the concept and indoctrinated it into our two sons when they started driving, that just because a driver is indicating,it's not necessarily indicative of their intention.

Remember when the M40 had just opened from the M42 going south, hardly any traffic, bliss, but proudly sitting in the centre lane,even though the nearside lane was empty, was a Volvo estate, as you'd expect, but in addition it had the right hand indicator flashing merrily away.

At the end of a secondary road we use, where it meets a more major road going into the local town is a mini roundabout, the road we are on doesn't meet the more major road at a right angle,sitting at the give way lines it'd be easier to go left, we need right.

SWMBO sits at the junction, signalling right which is correct ,but she absolutely insists on taking the tight mini roundabout by swinging left and going totally around the roundabout not cutting it, which is of course technically correct.

But, the vehicles on our left, who have to give way as we are approaching from their right, frequently do not as SWMBO has swung left despite having the right hand indicator merrily flashing away, I have tried, in vain of course, to advise her this is an accident waiting to happen as cars on our left expect her to follow the path of her wheels, not the indicator, fortuitously this has not yet occured.
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the vehicles on our left, who have to give way as we are approaching from their right, frequently do not
This ^^^ is the problem around these parts. Drivers don't treat mini roundabouts as roundabouts, but as junctions. They give way when they have the right of way, and don't give way when they should.
I understand how they are supposed to work, but I can also see the counterintuitiveness of the concept as it is applied in the real world - in terms of major and minor roads converging.
These days, I approach mini roundabouts with extra caution and try to judge from other vehicle's position, speed, etc, what they are likely to do before committing to whichever direction I want to travel in.
even ordinary roundabouts - so many people start indicating to leave two exits early. Never trust an indicator is my motto now....
Much easier over here, the French just don't bother indicating at all!
I heard the late (and great) Terry Wogan during one of his humorous BBC Radio 2 rants refer to people who don't indicate as "Eco-warriors" as the buzz word at the time was, " Use your light bulbs less often to save electricity " :p
I don't know when "mini roundabouts" first arrived on UK roads, but I was first aware of them in the '70s. So why is it that, 50-odd years on, drivers still aren't sure how to correctly negotiate the infernal things? o_O
Drivers don't treat mini roundabouts as roundabouts, but as junctions.
For information - I first saw the concept of the mini-roundabout published in an article in Municipal Engineer magazine circa 1974. The article was by the inventor and he was presenting the idea for what I think was the first time.

His concept was based on the fact that at heavy traffic flows, a roundabout works best, but at low flows, a junction works best. The mini-roundabout is supposed to function as both, depending on the density of traffic. At low flows it was perfectly ok - intended in fact - to drive over the roundabout as if it didn't exist, just as at a normal junction.

I think the whole idea of the things has been forgotten and they are now just another excuse for drivers to get irate at each other and the police to stop motorists for perceived infringements.
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In France (and possibly Belgium) it seems that the rule was to indicate the entire time you were passing/overtaking.
At first glance a sensible measure as a car coming at you in your lane with its weepy yellow headlights is easier to see if something is going blinky blinky....
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They applied this rule in ALL cases of passing/overtaking.... including multi-lane highways...
Given that lane markings are more of a suggestion than a rule in Gaulish nations having someone blinking away in the middle lane as they approach a car going 1.32 KMH slower and having NO WAY of know if/when they may move over again was extremely nerve wracking...
I think they stopped about the time they stopped the yellow headlight but many do it to this day.....
Before I moved here, I thought the French drove on the right. Not true...... they drive in the middle of the road. Ronnie keeps complaining that I drive in the gutter (not that she can see where my inside wheels are) but when the car coming the other way is in the usual position, it seems safer!
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Anyone with a nervous disposition or a tendency towards grumpiness when navigating unfamiliar roads should look away now or skip this post.

I'm pretty sure this was one grumpy Civil servants idea of a joke, or possibly vengeance for a poor annual job appraisal, no bonus or pay rise for the preceding year.

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The Magic Roundabout, Swindon, UK.

I admit I much prefer the TV series of the same name starring Dougal, Brian, Zebedee Florence, Ermintrude, Dylan and others.
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