GOGS...Grumpy Old Gits Society..

There are specialists for people like you....

and for people like the people you describe..

Wankel Ickx said:

People who just post page after page after page after page after page after page of ancient yellowed slot car magazine scans; a bullet is too good for the brass 'n' sponge-obsessed speed-crazed morons.

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Touchy! :wacko:

gus3049 said:

we should be giving thanks for the amount of effort put in to restore some of the backlog of information offered by this forum.

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Quite. The forum is a very valuable resource for all aspects of the hobby. Historic/archive articles themselves are an integral part of that valuable resource. I, for one, will probably never avail myself of the fruits of Dave's labours because I don't have the interest in the history of our hobby that many people have. He's giving-up his free time to do it - and it seems that he's spending a lot of time on it - and he should be saluted, not besmirched by those of us who don't possess that interest.

Ecurie Martini said:

I am betwixt and between on this - I have friends (some deceased) who built very fine scale model racing cars and also participated in the more "performance oriented" part of the hobby but it was also the advent of pink and green tires and door-stop shaped bodies that drove me out of the hobby in the mid 60's.

EM

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It seems to me there can be a balance. I would never run some of the blobs I see but I am definitely part of the brass and sponge brigade. It is only because they are no longer in use that this car doesn't have them . I can't see that anyone could object to the body though (the one on the right) I make them as fast as possible whilst retaining some semblance of scale.

However, the fact that I consider most RTRs to be slow and boring doesn't mean that I should insult those that enjoy them.

Heh. Old-timers are easily rattled, ain't they?

One could be extremely grumpy and indeed, complain, about a post like No 1221.

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Well, this is the spot for complaints so, fill yer boots, I say.

For the avoidance of doubt, as I have stated here at least once before, I use the phrase 'speed-crazed moron' lightheartedly. Ironically, if you will. If folk want to take offence, again, knock yourselves out, I'm sure you find many things in life that do offend you but no offence is intended by me.

And, speaking of irony, I originally stole the phrase from one, TSRF, who, I believe, is a fully paid up member of the brass 'n' solder 'n' nostalgia brigade, but who, I believe, was also actually being ironic when he typed it and not insulting or besmirching anyone.

I could be wrong, mind.

I can't see that anyone could object to the body though...

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Hmmm. Almost as polarised as me, eh?

gus3049 said:

It seems to me there can be a balance. I would never run some of the blobs I see but I am definitely part of the brass and sponge brigade. It is only because they are no longer in use that this car doesn't have them . I can't see that anyone could object to the body though (the one on the right) I make them as fast as possible whilst retaining some semblance of scale.

However, the fact that I consider most RTRs to be slow and boring doesn't mean that I should insult those that enjoy them.

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I quite agree. I have a number of cars similar to those pictured (although perhaps not as well done) and they are my preferred (toys?) (hobby?).

Locally we run 4 classes on a collection of home tracks, typically 4 lane wood tracks with braid or tape conductors. Two of the classes are essentially "stock" RTRs with very limited options - added weight, loosening of body screws and, in one case, tire choice. Of the remaining two, one is wide open, the other has a motor restriction but both adhere to scale appearance and dimension standards as well as prototype era (eg pre-1962 sports/racing) The latter are the focus of my efforts since, for me, building is easily 50% or more of the enjoyment. Actually, since the requirements of these "scratch" classes can be met by modified RTRs and some of the newer RTRs can be quite quick, the challenge is to see if I can "outbuild" them by a sufficient margin to compensate for my modest (and declining with age) driving skills.

We do have a "no magnet" rule across all classes although, of course, magnets would simply be ballast on the taped tracks and those not using magna-braid.

One of the observations I have made about the "other side" of the hobby - wing cars, vac-formed door stops, tiny or non-existent front tires etc. - is that competition involves a set of rules so long and detailed that it both restricts innovation and takes so long to read that I could probably build a car in less time!

As a long-time sailing dinghy racer, I must also comment that the intensity of the competition does not necessarily depend on the absolute speed of the conveyance.

EM

PLEASE, PLEASE ........ JUST MAKE HIM STOP .......... ...

Who?

I've developed a love hate relationship with this button recently.