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Good round Tuff Ones tires in silicone

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Who sells good black silicone rear Tuff Ones rear tires? I prefer tight fitting tires.

I'm too cautious to buy from a random ebay ad, been snookered too many times with loose fitting eggs.
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Aren't Super Tires like the best around? You can get them from Frank the Racer.
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I agree with Uncle Glock.

Super Tires from FrankTheRacer. They are super! (y)
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Things to think about...

Simply changing to Silis doesnt fix these doofed wheels or axles. Nows the time.

When you have the tires off, consider that a manufacturer like say ... Otto Whirled, has to get 10 things perfect past the point of the crown gear. 2 axles, 4 wheels, and 4 tires.

Use your ghost controller and run the car slowly enough, so that you can count the rim rotations. At speed, you cant see what you need to see, because it becomes a blur. I do this with pert near every car before it ever hits the track. Grampa uses 3x readers there days.

What your looking for is the rim to be moving up and down, walking in and out; or a combination of both that looks like a drunken wobble/figure 8. If you can see it with the naked eye, IT IS JUNK! If you change a cockeyed wheel and the condition persists, the axle is suspect.

If your doing it right, a whacked out example should make you feel a little seasick ...

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Over the years, slotters have been conditioned to accept "buzz words" that get thrown around. "CNC machined" is one in particular. The wheels are CNC'ed, the molds are CNC'ed, the CNC was CNC'ed, yer number 3 with super size fries was CNC'ed ... thereby absolving anyone from having to do ANYTHING; as though it were the gospel of concentric.

The really fast guys have really smooth cars, because they verify everything is straight or round.
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Aren't Super Tires like the best around? You can get them from Frank the Racer.
What is the factory diameter of Tuff Ones rears?
Frank has too many to choose from!
I agree with @model murdering , everything has to be straight or round, not crooked.

As for the default sizes, in this table the ones in yellow are the standard sizes for each chassis.

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The Super Tires Pro Series was originally designed to fit 0.188" diameter wheels. Those tires were intended to be used with T-Jet SS or Fray style cars, they have rounded outer sidewalls and come in incremental sizes. While the tires were in the developmental stage it was discovered that they would have more grip if you used 0.170" diameter wheels. The chart on the Super Tires site shows what the mounted diameter for a particular part number tire will be on either diameter wheel. If you want to have the stock OD the ID of the Tyco series tires would be too large. The Tuff-1 400 tires would be the ones to use.
Here's a relatively inexpensive option you can try:

Tuff Ones silicone

I've purchased from this vender before and found them to be reputable.

-OldTjetGuy
A lot gets lost in the translation, especially over time. Original Tuff Ones rear tires were foam. AW introduced the boot rubber tires. While we see the lines get smeared, AW or JLTO's are not Tuff Ones, and rubber tires arent silicones.

I'm fairly certain the offering from Chisox Mark are also rubber. That heavy inside ridge looks to be a performance issue. Ive bought from Mark many times, but in this case rather than making the assumption, I'd lean towards caution and ask a few questions; as the OP specified "silicones".

I've seen this before with other vendors.
Original Tuff Ones rear tires were foam.
Is that right? I have a some vintage tires that I thought were original Tuff Ones, and they are rubber (and hard as rocks).
I wasn't there, so I can't say. :)
But it also seems like the NOS chassis listed on Ebay also have rubber tires.

Who sells good black silicone rear Tuff Ones rear tires
I think the most reputable brand I know of is Super Tires.
Here is a link to the Pro Series chart that Rich mentioned.
Also, the "standard" tire specs are here (Tuff-1 378 and Tuff-1 400)


I personally am a fan of HO Tires Direct. A very good product, but the web site is a bit harder to navigate.
The top table shows the options and sizes for 0.188" rims.

But you have to go and find them on another page to add them to the cart.
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Given the "S1 compound" note, of curious if those may be sourced from HO tires direct
model murdering said:
Original Tuff Ones rear tires were foam.
HDK: Is that right? I have a some vintage tires that I thought were original Tuff Ones, and they are rubber (and hard as rocks).
I wasn't there, so I can't say. :)
But it also seems like the NOS chassis listed on Ebay also have rubber tires.

You callen' me old Jim? LOL!



Note item 4, and gulp ...

I was there, shudder. Ya didnt just buy tires off the rack. Ya scuffed the chrome off the rim. Ya glued the tires to the rim. Ya trued them. You sauced them. No doubt why I'm still so damm picky about skins.



Just narrowed and trued a set of Tuff Ones silis for my tool truck.
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Are these any good for stock tjet silicone?
My troubles with buying replacement stock tjet tires is that most new tires are loose. I don't understand why it is so hard to make snug tires that don't fly off when running 12v. Is there an easier to navigate super tires website? The websites mentioned previously remind me of late 1990 web sites sans rainbow bars.

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My troubles with buying replacement stock tjet tires is that most new tires are loose
It's not an error, it's a feature! That way you reproduce the experience of running T-Jets as as child or yore 😁
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Dash sold skinny silicone tires that look like the original Aurora T-Jet ones. Those tires appeared to be injection molded, which is unusual for silicone HO tires since those are usually hand poured.
I bought a number of early Dash cars with those tires, but never ran them on my track. My club runs one class for cars with skinny tires, but regular hand poured ones are allowed. The problem with skinny tires, even with ones that start out with the correct ID, is that they will eventually get stretched and want to come off of the wheels. The HOCOC Vintage Tin class allows double flange wheels for that reason, otherwise the tires would have to be glued on.
Are Dash current front tires wider than T-Jet skinny tires?
Are these any good for stock tjet silicone?
I bought some of those Rocket Science tires. The ones I received were actually grey which was disappointing. They fit well and drove well. I still prefer rubber for the TJets that I run on my short track.
Are Dash current front tires wider than T-Jet skinny tires?
More than double.
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