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Allan Wakefield
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Ok guys,
I need some quality help here, I know that in '65 / '66 or close, Bob Durant and J, Whitmore drove in the Targa Florio with a GT40 Spyder.

There was an article or thread last year on SCI or HRW I think but it has long gone.

I cant find any pics of the car and need some good all round ones.
Can anyone help please?

ta muchly !!!!!
 

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have 1 rear/top view of that car that i can email or something, and 2 b&w pics in the gt40 book by david hodges, do you already have that book? or maybe i can scan them for you
 

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No I don't have the book, but I would certainly appreciate the photos Astro..thanks!
 

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It was Bob Bondurant and Sir John Whitmore who drove a Ford GT40 "Spyder" in the 1965 Targa (edit: chassis GT/111). Chassis numbers GT/108 to GT/112 were all built as open top cars. Resilient Resins make a very nice 1/24th scale body of this car, as pictured by Nico. Anyway Swiss, you've given me the opportunity to reminisce… something that happens all too frequently when one turns 50!

I grew up in Milnerton near Cape Town, South Africa, and whenever there was a motor race in town I would cycle to the nearby Killarney racetrack. The highlight of the year was always the Cape Town round of the Springbok Series, a 3-hour endurance race, and seeing all the international stars and the "big-banger" sports cars. Peter Sutcliffe entered his Ford GT40 "roadster" in the 1966 race, which he had also raced in the Kyalami 9-Hour Endurance Race with John Love. From the history books I see that it was chassis number GT/112, but for some reason it was called a Ford "P40" in the entry list.



The Sutcliffe chassis (GT/112) was the last of the original chassis built to roadster spec. It stayed like this for some time until a plastic roof was added to it for 1967 and then completely rebuilt for 1968 as a "proper" GT40 with standard bodywork and nose.

It's interesting that the Ford Mustang Mach I concept car, first shown in public at Watkins Glen in 1962, was a "roadster" design, with a strong resemblance to the original Ford GT:





I have seen several publications which describe the roadsters as the "Ford GT-X1". The X1 was in fact the designation given to the McLaren-built GT/110 chassis that was entered in the USRRC sports car races in 1965, the forerunner to the Can-Am series. It had the long nose used in the 1965 Le Mans 24 Hour race.





At the end of the season, Ford rebuilt GT/110 into Mk. II roadster spec and won the '66 Sebring race with it.



Kind regards

Russell
 

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Dear Swissracer,

On last December you posted a request concerning a GT40 that participate to the 1965 Targa Florio.

On the 1965 Targa Florio the GT40 numbered 194 driven by Sir John Whitmore et Bondurant had the chassis nbr 111 as confirmed by the following list: http://user.tninet.se/~aiq291w/Targa65.htm
I can even send you a picture of the car.
I have more additonal info if you are still interested.

I am looking for info regarding the chassis 111 between the years 1967 and 1990. Can you help me by any chance?

Kato
 

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Great thread. I have an original 1/24 slot car body that I have rebuilt as the restored GT/108 using the Fujimi chassis. I am also converting a Mk11 into the Sebring roadster but any person contemplating this needs to be aware the glass is a considerably different to the Mk11 coupe. Shelby GT40 by Freidman ISBN 0 7603 0013 5 is the best source of pics that I am aware of for the Mk11 Spyder

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Here's a colour shot of the Sebring car if it helps anyone.



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Richard,

Many thanks for the picture. I confirm it is well the chassis 111 and the green colour is right.
Where did you get it?

Have someone more info about GT40 chassis 111 history particulary during its life in South Africa where it was modified as a coupe?

Thanks advance and best regards

Kato
 

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QUOTE (howmet tx @ 11 Jun 2004, 08:37)Now maybe that's something I can do with my new Hornby static kit, David....
I didn't know the static Hornby GT was out Howmet, you make it sound like a challenge or a threat!

Looking at the rear of the Targa Florio car in Sidewinders photo it is a lot of work to alter from the standard shape - lots and lots of filler.

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I too planned on modifying a GT40 (if that's Swiss' intentions) to represent specifically the Green car. The trouble is the rear end looks like it requires a lot of modifying, especially if using a MK1 Scaly kit as a starting point which would be beyond my modelling skills, however for some one more experienced, I am sure not a problem.

I pilfered the photo from Motor Racing Retro (what a great site that was) a large version is available of the green car if required (need to find it).

Swiss if you do decide to model the green or any version definitely would like to hear of your experiences.


The red version looks the better/easier bet, although no kit as a starting point but IMHO not as cool as the pea green mobile.


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Hi Kato

The picture was taken by Geoff Goddard is cropped from a colour plate in " The Encyclopedia of Motor Sport " edited by G. N. Georgano (1971) .
I dont have any details of "111" have you got a copy of the GT40 Bible ?



Its just gone into reprint Amazon have the paperback for about 12 UK Pounds .
The Ecyclopedia is available but very pricey .

Richard
 

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My Hornby kit is, as I write, stashed somewhere in the deepest recesses of the local sorting office. Local Postie evidently gave up trying to shove MRE's parcel through the letter box, and was baffled by doorbell technology. Maybe he was trying to pull instead of press. Now every time I cycle over the hill, the entire PO staff hide under the desk and a disembodied hand hangs a 'closed' sign on the glass door. (little yellow frowning face here)
Not a threat or a challenge, big Dave, unless it is to mine own self. Just thinking the Sebring car looked more dooable. Whilst trying to retrieve the kit I have been mulling over the non-standard types and colour schemes I might assay. (little yellow face with finger to lips and flashing question mark here)
 

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Swiss,
Don't know what access you have to French publications, but there's a great magazine called Automobile Historique, which is now a monthly. The April and May 2004 issues had a two part series on the Ford GT40, with a chassis by chassis description of all the cars - including GT40-111 roadster (in April issue), and a color photo at Targa 1965... it's from the back, and not that clear for shade, but still in color. Has all the other models too, and about half the photos in color (I think they have the Serge Pozzolli?? photo archives, if that means anything to you)

To order back issues: [email protected]

If you don't speak French, or need help, let me know.... They tried doing an English language version of the magazine a year or two ago, but I think it disappeared - it was a revised machine translation anyway!

good luck,
Don
 

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Finally got my Hornby kit this morning. Had to tunnel into the sorting office and ignite smoke bombs, causing enough confusion to enable me to snaffle the parcel out and escape.

Nice kit, but I'm disappointed about the lack of chrome and etched parts that the RTR has. Particularly in that you don't get the rear spoiler. The row of fixings is moulded into the tail section, but there's nothing to fix onto them. Silly. No radiator grille, and no headlights other than the clear castings for the fairings. Wheels won't even go round. No history, no detailed painting instructions- it all could have been so much better.
But what you do get is a reasonably cheap body shell for scratchbuilding purposes. Although the rear section is all wrong for the earlier Sebring-winning spyder. Let alone the Targa version.
 
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