sean, when i was 30, you where born, when i was 40, you where10, 1/4 of my age, when i was 50, you where 20, 2 fifths of my age, when i was 60, you where 30, 1/2 my age!!! you are caching me up! by the time we are into three figuers you will have pasted me!! you old sod, have a good one sean, cheers mac p