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Hi folks. I'm very new here. Haven't driven slots since I was a young thing. (Don't ask!!!)

I am about to build a digital scalextric track in my man-cave. I guess it will be aroud 120' track length. I am hoping to find some advice regarding cars to run digital. I would like to focus on 1960's era racing. Le Mans and F1. Is there anywhere I can go to buy these things off the shelf? I have been searching online, but can't find enough cars to make a set of 6 le mans and 6 F1. Is it a case of just watching ebay and buying them one at a time? What should I worry about when looking at different makes ie. fly, carrera, scalextric etc. Will they run well together, or should I only run the same make?

The sort of thing I am looking for is GT40, Ferrari P4, Chaparal, Lola T70 Mk3, Porsche carrera 906, Ford 'J' cars and Cobra's (both Daytona and 289/427), plus Jag E-Types etc. Le Mans is 'my thing, but I would also like some circa 1967 F1 cars. Lotus 49, Eagle westlake, Ferrari 312, Cooper climax.... you get the idea?

Any help or pointers would be greatly received.

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Hi,

A lot of manufacrurers make the cars you are asking about, Slot It, Scalextric and Fly all make (or in Flys case,have made) the GT40. They have also made Chaparals and various Ferrari models. Scalextrix have made a number of the F1 cars you want (also check out Cartrix as they have made a number of vintage F1 cars). If you check the listings at a good retailer (i use Pendle Slot Racing and MRE) they will stock most of the cars you want. Fly and Revell also made a Lola car (Fly ones may be expensive to buy and hard to source if not available from a retailer). NSR also make the GT40 and Porshce 917. Scalextric did make a P4 Ferrari and if you shop around you may be able to find some. Fly also did a number of Ferrari 512 models which you may find again by looking around. If a car is hard to find, check Ebay (preferably as a last resort). Spirit also made some models of the Ferrari 512, but they are hard to find as Spirit may have stopped trading at present.

Hope you enjoy your track, 120' sounds like a great track, hope you can post pics on here soon!

Enjoy!!!

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Hi Mark and welcome to the forum!

As your request is for cars to run on a digital layout, you may get a more qualified response on the digital section of the forum.

I can move it over to there if you want - just ask!
 

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Thanks for the reply and suggestions Mathew. I will post some pics when the layout is up and running.

Mr M, go ahead and move my post to wherever you think best


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hi Mark

Just a few notes from my very limited experience.
  • Until your racing group gains some experience, I would suggest going with the leMans cars and leave the open wheelers until later. Just like the real thing, touching wheels in F1 cars results in instant and spectacular accidents, so until the drivers get enough experience under their belts to do close racing without contact, stick with full body cars that allow a bit of bumping and grinding without disrupting proceedings.
  • Most of the major Group C cars from the 60s are avilable at a reasonable price from the on line auction and forums sellers listings, particularly if you don't mind using cars that aren't "new in box". I have picked up GT40s, P3/4 Ferraris, T70 Lolas and Chaparral 2F all under $40.
  • If you want close racing, consider going with a single spec make and model, particularly if you don't want to do extensive "upgrading" to your cars. There is a wide variation in the out of box capabilities from the various makers, and even two different models from the same manufacterer can be significantly different; for example we ran a spec Scalextric GT40 class, I tried a Scalex P4 Ferrari thinking it would make a good addition to the class, but it turned out to be much faster than the Fords
    . Also some cars will need a fair bit of work to become an enjoyable drive (*cough* Fly Lola *cough* - beautiful to look at but not well engineered). A grid with all the big players represented looks great, but unless the cars have been modded to be equal, the racing won't be much fun.
  • Just about any car can have a chip added to digitize it but some much more easily than others. Check the chipping directory to see what's involved for any particular car. Generally if you're going Scalextric digital, I'd suggest starting out with Scalextric cars until you get comfortable with the procedures involved.
  • My suggestion for a start up class would be box stock Scalextric GT40. These are readily available in a wide variety of liveries. The stock tires are a bit slippery, but if everybody uses them everything stays equal
    They are not blindingly fast, so allow new drivers a bit of leeway while learning the ropes. They are pretty easy to add a digital chip - depending on the age of the car it may be digital plug ready (just snap in a new chip and go), use an F1 chip (stand on edge behind the front axle) or a sedan chip (usually requires amputation of the driver at the knees but other than that straightforward). As I said, our local group ran this class and found it to be great fun

Best of luck - have fun.

cheers
Scott
 

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Thanks Scott, that sounds like good advice.

I have purchased a selection of cars for my own collection as it were. My mates will be buying their ownn cars eventually. That's the plan anyway!

I was wondering about equalling out the performance of different manufacturers and models etc, and if I had made life hard for myself. Somewhat reassuring to hear that even identical cars from the same manufacturer can perform differently. We are all quite techy in differnt ways, so the modding of cars should add to the fun (I hope) and not pose unsurmountable problems (with the help of this forum!).

So far I bought these to run two classes:

1x Racer P4 Spyder
1x Fly Essex Wire GT40
1x MRRC Chaparral 2F
1x Fly Lola T70 MKIIIB (Mark Donahue) is that an 'oops' I just heard???
1x Fly Gulf GT40
1x Fly Porsche Carrera 906

1x Fly Ferrari 250GTO
1x Monogram Corvette Stingray
1x Ninco AC Cobra (39PH) ( need to fashion a Le Mans roof!)
1x Monogtram Cobra Daytona Coupe
1x Fly Ferrari 250 LeMans (David Piper)
1x Monogram E Type jaguar Lightweight

Now the fun starts!!!
 

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QUOTE I was wondering about equalling out the performance of different manufacturers and models etc, and if I had made life hard for myself.
I forgot to ask what power base you are using - if it's a C7042, you have the option of adjusting the performance of each car with the software (sadly not the system I have, so not able to comment on how to do it but am sure the info is in this forum). This of course only adjusts the power output from the motor, so any other issues a car has (rubbing tires, twisted chassis, out of true wheels, misaligned gears,...) will still have to be dealt with.

QUOTE Somewhat reassuring to hear that even identical cars from the same manufacturer can perform differently
Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear, when I said "two different models from the same manufacturere" I was using model in the generic sense (as in type of car, in this case a GT40), not the individual car. All the Scalextric GT40s we run are very close in performance.

QUOTE Fly Lola T70 MKIIIB (Mark Donahue) is that an 'oops' I just heard???
nah - can never go wrong with a Donahue Lola T70
Even if the thing is an absolute slug it looks so good it's worth it just to use as a paperweight. Seriously, while I know that Fly makes some great runners and their cars are beautiful to look at, it seems their Group C cars are generally not very well made and usually need some serious work to make them reliable and competitive. The T70 is one of the worst as it has the notorious "independent" front axles (which they apparently took to mean that the front wheels should be able to wobble alarmingly in independent directions). The Fords usually also need some work; some suggestions at this link:
http://www.auslot.com/forums/index.php?/topic/6369-fly-gt40/

Nice looking collection. With a little perseverence you should be able to get a nicely balanced set of contenders. And as you said, modding the cars just adds to the fun.

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I'm hoping they will be easier to mod than my 1:1 scale racer!!! but that is a whoooole other story.
And as for Donahue. He was an inspiration, not just as a driver, but as an engineer of race cars too. What a guy!

My parcel arrived from Jadlam this afternoon. Guess who's taking tomorrow off from work!!! LOL
 

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Mark, you ought to seriously think about getting a few robust models When you let young ones loose on the digital, it's crash bang wallop for the whole session. A few tough minis, boxsters, TT's will keep them happy and save your bloood pressure.

Have fun tomorrow! Don't forget to get some pics of the construction and first running, then stick them on here for us to share.
 

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That's a good point Snurfen, although I do not expect any youngsters, but you never know. I plan on setting a 60's era feel to the scenery/layout, so I may get some basic saloons, escort's, mini's etc that we can race in a rougher manner that won't look tooo out of place in the setting. We do not plan on racing with magnets either, so it could get rough!

I will start a thread to post pics etc as the layout comes to life. I am off now to buy a load of wood etc to build the base board.
 

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Here are the first two cars chiiped and running well. The MKII GT40 is an addition to the list above, found it going super-cheap and can't seem to stop buying cars!!!


Chipping the GT40 was fairly easy. The board is mounted over the front axle. The Vette was more difficult which surprised me as the body is bigger, I thought there'd be more room. However with the motor up front, I had to cut out the passenger seat. I only have saloon chips in stock.

You can see the chip sitting next to the driver! Not ideal, it reminds me of a story in Mark Donahue's biography, where he describes having competely filled the interior of (I think) a Camero with masses of data logging equipment and a tech guy strapped in, back in the late 60's and hurtling around Penske's skid pan collecting info for suspension tuning purposes. I guess data logging in the 60's was somewhat different to today!

 
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