[moped rider]

Nobody appears to have mentioned the new release of Denny Hulme and Peter Gethin McLarens from Historic Scale Racing Replicas.

HSRR cars are accurate 1/32 scale. They have aluminium wheels with detailed inserts, front wheel steering, bronze bearings, sidewinder Mabuchi motor, magnet, spare guide assembly. Detail includes separate helmet visors, intake trumpets, correct roll bars for each driver and apparently are said to run fabulously on the track.

Retailing at £55 they should appeal to the club racer who requires a car that is track ready.

Moped

 

[slik]

Hey there Moped!

Do you have any links please?

Cheers,

Julian.

 

[j-c]

I must admit to not knowing of these cars -would you have some pictures so that I could judge what classes they could race in.

It could well be that they are not competitve in a class - so they may be better suited to the home racer - especially if one has £110 and a two lane circuit.

Is there a website for details and what is the UK/European dealership like.

Many thanks.

J-c

 

[Mr.M]

I think they may have had a brief mention somewhere before, possibly by Russell, but didn't develop into anything. I had expected the price to be a lot more though, so as they could well get in under my self-imposed price barrier with a small amount of discount.

You have us hanging on your hook now Moped, so put us out of our misery, give us the source!

Mr.M (I.I.C. etc, etc....)

 

[j-c]

Just search on google - and they come out at about $59 and look similar to the Vanquish Mclarens.

http://www.sportcraftcars.com/other.slotcars/hsrr5A.jpg

Dunno wot happened above - I seem to be repeating myself - hope it stops before tonight.

j-c

 

[BEEJAY7]

Here you go chaps :-

I got mine a few weeks ago from Prof Motor in the States.

Really good looking and handling cars, the steering in particular being very effective.

Also they are true 1/32nd Scale, look at the picture on the Prof's website showing this car against a Vanquish....Here

Also I don't know where the figure of £55 came from, I paid £33 plus about £3 shipping, and no intervention from the UK Customs and Excise or Post Office.

Regards

Alan

 

[JohnP]

That looks like a superb model Alan - nearly as nice as the one in the Chelsea kit!

Btw, here's Russell's earlier thread:

Historic Scale Racing Replicas McLaren M8D, 1/32nd scale R-T-R

 

[watchfob]

HRSS web address

http://www.historic-scale-racing-replicas.net/index.htm

 

[howmet tx]

That photo of the HRSS car next to the VMG on the Prof's site is hilarious!

What a nice looking model! I hope they go down well- just to prove that VMG havn't ruined the market for Can-Ams. Can't wait to see what other cars they come up with. Steering is a much better idea than a diff. too, as long as it's strong enough.
Tail end looks a bit jacked-up though. Did they have trouble fitting the motor in, or is it something that can be fettled?

 

[watchfob]

If you look at a photo of the 1:1 at rest - you will notice that it is quite high at the rear - at running speed with the 'downforce' in play, the rear ends dropped significantly - I was lucky enough to see these cars run in their time, both at Mosport & Donnybrooke - very scary, especially when running with the Porsche 917's.

 

[RMMseven]

These are excellent looking and running cars. Prof Motor has some but I'm not sure for how much longer. Get them while you can becasue they were made in what we consider limited numbers, at least in the first batch.

The actual cars did sit a bit high in the back but this is accectuated by the slot car package which keeps the rear tires off of the floor.

A #48 Dan Gurney car was also produced and I think is the most desireable. Shortly after Bruce McLaren's fatal accident at Goodwood Dan won the first two Can Am races of 1970. Sponsor conflicts kept him out of the car for the rest of the season and Denny Hulme won his second Can Am championship.

 

[moped rider]

Gary at MRE has them for sale at the £55 quoted. They do look a little bit special.

Moped

 

[Da Vols]

QUOTE I hope they go down well- just to prove that VMG havn't ruined the market for Can-Ams.

Taking away nothing from the HSRR McLaren's as they have received great praise not only for their scale accuracy, but for their excellent performance as well - however, it is my understanding that it took approximately 4 years of development for them to come to production and there is no indication if another Can Am car other than the McLaren will be produced soon. If that is the case, other than a different "numbered" orange McLaren, it's only other competitor would be the Fly 917-10's.

That being said, yes VMG with their non-1/32nd scale Can Am's have their detractors for either the "differential" and/or over-size, but they do and will be producing a varied line of Can Am competitors: different versions of the McLaren, Lola, March, Shadow and BRM...with who know what may be down the line...Ferrari or Honker or Caldwell??? And except for the drivers not sitting properly, you can't slight VMG's attention to detail.

For me, their size is not a problem, as they're not so big that they can't be raced side by side on my Artin (and previous Classic) track. Actually their size is compariable to the Spirit Lola.

As to the differential problem...I have encountered that and did all the fixes to no avail (crown kept on stripping) until I added the motor to axle mount brace and all is well now. I do plan to add more VMG's to my garage soon...as well as HSRR's #48 too!

So, I definitely would suggest hurrying if you want to get any one of these HSRR McLaren's, especially the #48, as they are going very fast here in the USA!!!

 

[MR MAX]

Just had a few peeks at their website and they must be small considering VMG cars are slightly too small, or is it vice versa?! I would just get 1 from Prof Motor in the USA for £33 and ship it over to my side of the pond. The steering looks interesting, mainly that HSRR are the only company to attempt it on a non-F1 car, SCX have already done F1.

 

[McLaren]

SCX have done steering in GT and Touring Cars too.

McLaren

 

[Harry Porsche]

Yes they are nice cars. There was already a post complete with pix from the prof. of the insides, too. The car he let us try ran great right out of the box on his wooden routed track. The car took a couple of hard hits into the wall and held up well. I was concerned about the steering being weak but it is well protected, as I observed. This is HSR's first foray into slot cars. Their forte is HO scale trains.

To fun!

 

[howmet tx]

VMG's 'attention to detail'?????

Don't get me started! Most of the VMG cars I've seen are such a slung-together bunch of compromises I don't know where to begin! But I don't want to start the day on a grump. That Hrsss car really looks 'Scale' in all senses of the word, even if the name sounds like a deflating tyre. And I take the point about the 'tail-up' stance. Not a problem.
I can wait another 4 years for a Ford G7A. Or a Matich-Repco. Or a Honker. Or a Macca M20. Or a Lola 220.
Enjoy what you enjoy!

 

[greenman62]

I don't want to sling stones at HRSS's effort however I will give my impressions of the Dan Gurney car I bought last week. Overall I do like tha car but I believe it's gonna take some work to make it a strong runner.

The overall look of the car is fantastic. Fit and finish are done to a very high standard. It appears to be enough within scale to sit right next to my 2 Surtees CAN AM Cars and not look out of place (not like my VMG Shadow). I have my perennial gripe with the stupid looking driver who is actually wedged into place. (he will be replaced).

I have major gripes with the guide and steering. The guide itself is too shallow... This fact is seriously impacted by the braid they chose. I find the braid is way too stiff. It's stiff enough to hold the the entire front end of the car including those nifty steering front wheels off the track and keeps the guide blade from going more deeply into the slot. I tried to retrofit softer braid into the spare guide and couldn't The slots in the guide are very narrow and there are pips at the outer edges, I supose to keep the braid from falling off. These pips prevent a softer braid's insertion. As to the steering... I feel steering on a good slot racer is about a useful as "tits on a boar hog". It adds a level of complication we don't really need. If it doesn't help the performance of the car why have it?

How does it drive? After I added a few grams of lead in the nose I was able to get some laps about my home track without popping out on even the mildest curve. The HRSS McLaren is realtively quick but both my Fly chassis Proto Lola T70 and my Maxi Model Lola are quicker and handle a LOT better. The HRSS McLaren needs to be driven with discretion. The rear breaks loose fairly easily even with the magnet. I'll need to do more tweeking to get the best performance out of it.

Am I disappointed? Yes, a bit. I had high hopes for this car. After all it's been in development long enough. It seems to me HRSS came right up to the bar to give us a really great slot car and decided instead to give us a diecast that moves.

Greenman62

 

[watchfob]

The pick-up & the braid are problematic, but that can be remedied - solder wink & a little patience resulted in the fix below - biggest problem was the braid moving when the steering moved - a little CA on the top of the guide soon fixed that - wheels are now firmly on the track & steering is smooth - I agree, what useful purpose the steering provides is sketchy at best - but it looks cool to me - doug

 

[greenman62]

The pick-up & the braid are problematic, but that can be remedied - solder wink & a little patience resulted in the fix below

Watchfob,

Tried your fix... worked like a charm...

The wee beastie isn't quite the handful it was and it's faster now, but still not faster than my other two... Not quite as disappointed anymore.

Thank you muchly

Greenman62