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Ideas for an SSD chip jig / rig please?

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I am going to build a small, bench to jig / rig for testing and fiddling about with car chips.Yet another C7005 seems to have blown. I have finally worked out my magnification and lighting arrangement so that I can attempt some SMD-img. Absolutely determined the little buggers wont continue to get the better of me, with resolute and devious intent, I have been reading, re-reading and trying to take in Gregs tips from the phenomenal Trials and Tribulation series.

Ideas please, and links to any further info. particularly about (chip) circuit testing procedures, and how the microcontroller works and has been set up for SSD slotting, would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Wannabe Nerd level please .. although I suspect Dummys guidance may prove more suitable.
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Knowing the part numbers for the motor and brake MOSFETs should help...

I listed the most important ones a while back...

https://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=187883&p=2315825

Please share any specific questions needing answered. Great idea for a thread... and good luck with the repair endeavours :thumbsup:

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Thank you. I did begin to wonder if there would be any interest in this at all!

I was unaware there are so many 'equivalents'. The C7005 I am scrutinising at the moment has the following for TR1 - 'S5H93', and for TR2 - '15PBD'. These are not on your list. I cannot find anything on them on Google or the component search facility in EasyEDA. I will try to photograph these legends when I have the patience.

Unless I am mistaken it is interesting to note that TR1 and TR2 are depicted with JFET and not MOSFET symbols on the widely circulated Scalextric Chip circuit diagram. Might this be a further measure taken to avoid copyright infringement I wonder?

I am learning an enormous amount from this little, side project already and I do appreciate your comments and help greatly.

to be continued ...

Keith
Hi Keith, yes, a few inaccuracies in that well used old circuit diagram... but its still useful... even for fault tracing on the rev H decoder which is quite similar. I have no idea where the idea of a 10uF capacitor across the motor came from!

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Keith the correct parts are usually labelled N02 and P03... does it look like replacement parts were fitted?

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Hi Keith, yes, a few inaccuracies in that well used old circuit diagram... but its still useful... even for fault tracing on the rev H decoder which is quite similar. I have no idea where the idea of a 10uF capacitor across the motor came from!

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1) I had not taken much notice of that 'end' of the circuit yet .. certainly an interloper!

2) With respect to the Fets - it's almost impossible to tell. A slight rework to T1 perhaps, but too close to call. All my chips have come either new, or from Greg K, which would account for the precision.

So, on with the show:

I need to sort out all the breakout pins / sockets or whatever for my gadget, and there have to check the inputs and outputs. The other reason of course is so that when the jig is complete - I know what to look for!

I am starting at the left side today with the voltage regulator, and trying to reconcile what is on the aforementioned circuit diagram, with what's on the chip in actuality. NB 'exact' datasheet not found.

Perhaps you, or someone would cast an over these two diagrams please and check these out? I don't know what the silk screen markings 'Rev' and 'Car' refer to. These pins appear soldered but I can't tell if they are actually connected to anything?

Thank you.

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The 5V regulator is a Texas Instruments LM78L05A.

https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/snvs754l/snvs754l.pdf?ts=1602528434807&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.ti.com%252Fproduct%252FLM78L

1/ note for the SOIC 8 pin package pins are numbered from 1, rotating counter-clockwise. So the pin numbers on your above diagram look a bit odd.

Diagram from the TI datasheet;

Product Rectangle Font Parallel Diagram


2/ not sure about the silk screen labels - where did your diagram come from?

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Thanks ever so much.

aha, the 555 style layout is easier on the eye!

My pinout numbering is from a presumed similar, 7805 component, found on google as I am unused to the SMD package, pinout arrangements.

I am making my own reference in/output diagrams to work from for: (1) the regulator - as above (2) the six transistors (3) the pic

... i.e. adding screen labels, mostly copied from the actual chip, to suit.

One diagram down, two to go...

Keith.
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Sounds great...

Just one though... smd components dont always have the part number silk screen printed... sometimes just a label code (and sometimes this can include some of the following: perhaps codes for date of manufacture, version, place of manufacture, and whether lead free). The only place to find the label code is on the manufacturers data sheet under the heading package label.

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Much appreciated Dr_C

Here are my diagrams for the C7005 Voltage Rgulator pinout (updated) and the same for the Microcontroller used in the same.

The purpose of these is to make it easier to follow traces on the PCB and test for continuity.

Comments and advice would be most welcome as usual.

I will be working on a transistors pinout diagram next.

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Here is my simplified diagram for use in testing the continuity from and between transistor connections on the SSD C7005 chip.

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OK, I decided to go ahead with a similar pinout diagram for the diodes (bridge rectifier) on the C7005

Boring DISCLAIMER: I offer these diagrams as a hobbyist's 'personal interpretation' of the C7005 connections that I am using for my 'chip jig' project.

If you use these connections or ideas you do so at your own risk and responsibilty.

My next step is to put some voltages on these diagrams.

Please let me know if you find any errors. Thanks.

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Hi there,

To keep things simple...

2 diodes should input from track green and 2 should input from track yellow.

In a different combination...

2 diodes should output to 0V and 2 should output to U2 in.

Really like what you are doing :thumbsup:

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