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I see a lot of you guys talking about trueing your tyres (which I think I get), but you also talk about gluing in, tightening some other stuff and so on.

I had a look through the resources bit but couldn't find much.

Is there a guide for the basic stuff that you should check and do on a car, and also how to do it?
 
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Hi there,

Can I suggest ask in master classes section?

I would help but I'm tied up at this moment in time, but will be able yo help later

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Good call Baz, I've posted over there, so any passing mods can close this if you like.

Or leave it open for general discussion, what do I know...
 

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this thread comes up quite a lot, i tend to think the more knowledgeable or regular races forget there are new people taking up the hobby, or people who are afraid of asking simple questions thinking they should know the answers to but do not like to post, they may feel more relaxed asking these questions not in the spot light of the forum. may i suggest that clubs set aside a period where the more experienced racers hold a surgery to help in the setup,tuning,and racing of there cars, with friends around them there realise that they are not the only one,s who have what seem to them basic questions, but we all had to ask or find ways of gaining this knowledge. there are articles on these topics, but for the newer racer these thro up even more questions and need to have there questions answered on the spot, any thoughts folks??? mac p
 

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My question for "The Governor" is why would you want to do all this?


Is it because you feel pressured into doing this by your slot car peer group?

Why don't you make a concious decision to not do it and keep your cars standard!


You can have much more club slot car fun with 4 standard Scalextric Minis that all perform very similarly than with any mix of cars in various states of tune.

And for the folk who are talling about a Carrera event, why not have a Scalextric Mini event?

Many more of us have the Scalextric Mini than the Carrera Le Mans cars even allowing for the Argos specials.

I would bet anybody here that you would have more fun with the Scalextric Minis than you would with the Carrera Ferraris given that you turn up to race them in box standard form instead.

Whilst acknowledging that this may go slightly off topic I feel that "The Governors" original question has been answered as the info at the various web sites mentioned probably cannot be bettered.


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Ta for all the replies.

I don't feel pressured especially, only that so many people seem to be tuning that it sounded like a bit of a prerequisite before using the cars.

I'd kind of built an impression that it was better to tighten a few things up before using them rather than just chuck them on the track unprepared.

I don't have any plans to race in clubs just yet, so I don't need to be race tuned at all, but if it's good for the cars then I'd like to do it as they aren't especially cheap.

 

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For god's sake moped!

Look at that Camero of yours and tell me that you don't like modifying!

I think the guv' just wants to know how to get his cars running smoothly and progressivly a bit more like real cars, rather than hopping and skipping all over the place.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH WANTING TO TUNE CARS!!!!

Tuning and set-up is very different to 'modifying' and I wish people would remember that. To me, set up would be keeping all standard parts but arranging them in the correct order
. Where ar modifying is swapping everything for Slot.It versions and a hotter motor. I can see that cost cutters wouldn't want to fork out on Slot.It bits, but they also do not want to fork out for a new car when their unprepared one strips a gear or hops out at high speed and kills your spectators.

Anyway, talk about leading questions and putting pressure on the man!

QUOTE Is it because you feel pressured into doing this by your slot car peer group?

Why don't you make a concious decision to not do it and keep your cars standard!

You're the one telling him what to do! Leave him alone to make up his own mind!

Rant over,

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Hi Gov, check www.homeracingworld.com/; in "pit row tech tips" there is the work of A.Zarkada and Jim McLaughlin. One year ago was one of my starting points : thanks Jim!

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QUOTE I don't feel pressured especially, only that so many people seem to be tuning that it sounded like a bit of a prerequisite before using the cars.

I have to agree with the Govenor, however I do feel slightly pressured! I would like to attend a club local to me, but think that I will look rather daft, as I have no experience in tuning. I like Mopeds' comments - as its something I could do!!!
 

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I don't know a single person, one this forum or at my two clubs, who wouldn't help me when I was a newbie. Ask away and you'l be a top tuner in 3-5 years...


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QUOTE I have to agree with the Govenor, however I do feel slightly pressured! I would like to attend a club local to me, but think that I will look rather daft, as I have no experience in tuning.

Goldfish dont worry just go to the club and race clubs need support ,Its the best way to learn, I have been racing over 40 yrs and always try to encourage the new starters which is why I set up my web site ,So you loose a few races when you start ,big deal its only a bit of fun you soon pick up the tips some one will offer guidence,Granted theres always going to be some one who leads the way but thats the target you aim to beat and when you do its great.

(Pep talk over back to work)
 

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QUOTE (lotus03 @ 19 Apr 2004, 13:47)QUOTE You're the one telling him what to do! Leave him alone to make up his own mind!


Fear not! MY will is strong


QUOTE That's part of the worry gone... Just the fact that I don't have much faith in my racing ability is the only thing now!

I heard that mate.

Btw, cheers for the link sprint I'll check it out
 

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Thats a good point about "tuning", "set up", and "modifying", and the differences.

So lets get this straight.

Would I be right in saying that "modifying" is the act of replacing parts with different parts in the hope that the car goes quicker/goes for longer and creating a car that is not box standard?

And "set up" is the act of making the existing standard parts work better with less friction and wobbles but ultimately not altering the appearance of the existing box standard parts.

And "tuning" is the act of physically altering the existing standard parts to make the car go quicker/last longer whilst staying within box standard club racing rules.

If this is so, then "set up" is not a problem for anybody as we all want our cars to last longer and run smoother.

But "tuning" is in my mind rule bending and straying outside the spirit of box standard racing and is cheating.

And "modifying" is clearly something to be done where rules permit non standard parts and goes beyond tuning and is not an issue at an event that allows it.

It is the "tuning" thing that I am not keen on as it is race fixing.

It is of course possible to apply "tuning" when "modifying" so that non standard parts are altered to gain advantage.

This is all very murky stuff.

The web sites refered to above don't really make it clear what is murky and what isn't. Maybe they should.


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Hi Moped, does your foot not hurt?

We are setting the cars up for the carrera class not tuning them, think about it.

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Hi Moped,

A good summary of the terms used
As you say there are a few grey areas, but "exploiting" those grey areas can be fun too, in the spirit of the game. Look at real world motorsport, the teams are always looking for their interpretation of the rules.
If the rules of a slot car competition have a loophole in them the size of a small country, then should we not have fun and "interpret" those rules? Non- magnet cars can still end up with magnetic downforce, although most competition rules are wise to the fact these days


This doesn't exactly help with the box standard or not issue, but I think it was worth mentioning.

Also, IMHO - it is a fundamental right of every slot jockey to have round wheels and tyres on their slot cars. In real life, a lot of work is put into having round wheels on vehicles and balancing the tyres which surround them; we mimic the detail of the real cars, why not mimic the handling improvements?

Governor! Don't think you'll look silly, since the first time I attended Slot Tech raceway, I've always been given help and advice, and not the advice which ends in ...off! either



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