[Minardi]

What about a team from France

 

[chris99]

In spirit if not in person. A team of 1 plus the cat probably isn't enough to make it work here

 

[Minardi]

TEAMS

So far: (team names and cars/c-nrs follow)

The Netherlands, host Minardi

Team 1: Car (probably) Aston Martin DBR (Marcel,...)
Team 2: Car (probably) Audi R8 (Marcellus...,.....)

USA, host Mr Flippant

Team 3: Car driver (Greg,...)
Team 4: Car, driver

NZ, host Grunz

Team 5: Car, driver (Gio, ...)
Team 6: Car, driver

UK, host Mr Modifier

Team 7: Car , driver (Richard,...)
Team 8: Car, driver
Team 9: Car, driver

UK, host Wraith

Team 10:Car, driver
Team 11:Car, driver

@Chris99; Maybe there is a way, if you want and can help, to update overall standings every x minutes and post them on RCS64 forum, or alternative beter idea ?
As the overall race engineer

...

 

[Minardi]

Updated Checklist:

1) Date and time; Weekend March 15/16 March 16 08:00 Auckland time = March 15 19:00 Amsterdam) (*)

2) Lay Out

Lay out to be decided. Measurements living room style.

-2 standard power supplies.
-Type of controller ; all types are ok
-No use of pit sensors.
-Power taps allowed
- Borders as much as possible
- No barriers
- Single pit lane
- No single lane curves

3) Cars

Modern Scalextric GT with interior and lights.

Out of the box, no magnet, Mr Modifier urethanes, standard chip.

C-number to be approved by 'organisation'.

4) Event settings

Practice 15 minutes (*)
Qualify 15 minutes (*)
(every position = 1.5 track piece. Pole is first track piece connected to PB-track piece. 3 th place = 4.5 track piece, and so on. All cars in same lane)
Endurance 2 hours (*)

Tyre wear : yes
Tyre settings : * (a profile will be made and shared)
Available sets of tyres : Hard / Soft (*)
Tyre change time : 30 seconds (*)

Fuel load simualtion: YES (tank size/burn rate/refill rate to be shared)(*)

(tyre/fuel should last about 15 min.)

Parallel tyre change/refuel allowed

False start detection ; YES

Race end ; All cars same lap

No track call (Marshalls)

Throttle profiles (no limit)

Brake setting (Dynamic/no brakes/button all allowed)

5) Racing Rules

-No contact
-Stop and Go at False start (detected by RCS) and pushing car of track (applied by keyboard)
- Driver change at every pit stop (except stop and go)

Teams; At least 2 drivers/team

Minimum of 2 cars on track. If 1 human team, than 2nd car is constant speed, no lane changing pacer in best lane.

WINNER: The team with the most laps. In case of equal amount of laps, qualify result decides the winner.

(*) To be confirmed

 

[Minardi]

UPDATE:

Route1Racing will kindly provide the tyres

- 2 pairs rear tyres per location.

- If you need/want more, that is up to you and you should contact Richard (Route1racing) directly about this.

3 weeks in advance we need the complete list to give Route1Racing time to produce and deliver the tyres.

(this offer is based on a maximum of 8 different locations)

 

[GRUNZ]

Hi Marcel
All sounds good to me.
Some questions:
- why no pit sensors?
- do we enforce a minimum number of team members? let's say each team must have a minimum number of 2 members?
- Which is the Minimum Room Size and the track pieces that are available to all the members?
- Are we going to use realtime information through TeamViewer/Skype using the sharing desktop features or just updating a thread on the RCS-64 forum with screenshots?

 

[MrFlippant]

I think getting the communication sorted out sooner would be best. I might need to use a different computer from my race computer, as my race one isn't very fast, and doing something like skype or google hangouts will probably cause problems for the race.

 

[GRUNZ]

Yep, that's what I think. Maybe the best test is to have a meeting online using one of the tool to see how it works: we can also use the time to discuss a couple of details about the race (not just through the forum).

 

[Minardi]

Pit sensors: don't think every location has them, that's why I propose not to use them, same for everybody.
Maximum size: 1.5m x 5 m. Ok for everybody?
Track pieces: I think first make a lay-out, than see what is missing.

Real time data: It is not necessary to do the skype/teamview through race computer, if you have a camera. Besides that, I think we have the realtime html feature in RCS by the time the event takes place.

 

[GRUNZ]

Let's ask: do we all have pit sensing?

Layout size sounds good to me. Anybody got a smaller area?

We do not need to have a live video feed, just sharing the desktops would be fine so that we can see each other RCS dashboard. But if we have RCS doing it for us then I guess it is even better.

I would assume that this is a team race and as such no solo racing should be allowed, correct?

 

[MrFlippant]

QUOTE (Minardi @ 19 Jan 2015, 03:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Updated Checklist:
1) Date and time; Weekend March 15/16 March 16 08:00 Auckland time = March 15 19:00 Amsterdam) (*)

That would be fantastic for me! That puts it right in the middle of Saturday afternoon. I almost feel bad that it's such a great time for me.

Here's a URL that shows the other times for that slice of the weekend:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meet...2=16&p3=234
I'll ask the other guys who can attend at that time, but I'll assume it's not set in stone until other hosts agree.

QUOTE (Minardi @ 19 Jan 2015, 03:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>2) Lay Out
3) Cars
4) Event settings
5) Racing Rules

All good for me...

QUOTE (Minardi @ 19 Jan 2015, 03:20) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>WINNER: The team with the most laps. In case of equal amount of laps, qualify result decides the winner.

Doesn't RCS64 have a total race time? The tie breaker could be the total race time, which should show at least a small difference. If the total race time is exactly the same, then qually result could be a second tie breaker.

QUOTE (Minardi @ 19 Jan 2015, 05:04) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Route1Racing will kindly provide the tyres

SWEET! Thanks, MrMod!

I'm really looking forward to giving them some run time.

QUOTE (GRUNZ @ 19 Jan 2015, 10:40) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>- why no pit sensors?
- do we enforce a minimum number of team members? let's say each team must have a minimum number of 2 members?
- Which is the Minimum Room Size and the track pieces that are available to all the members?
- Are we going to use realtime information through TeamViewer/Skype using the sharing desktop features or just updating a thread on the RCS-64 forum with screenshots?

I don't know Marcel's reasoning, but I don't have pit sensors to install on a temp track. Also, they can be problematic when the pit lane is short and cars waggle when entering. I'd rather just pull off the track and take care of things using buttons. I don't think the sensors will be as big a need in this situation, especially as most of us will not be "accidentally" performing pit activities on the track.

I think a team min of 2 is pretty reasonable. I'd say max 3, if not 2. Some groups may be able to field a 5 man team, which wouldn't be very fair to the smaller teams.

I like the idea of Chris being a "master of ceremonies" and overall race controller. I would be fine giving him remote control of my track computer so that he can pause the race or something if a world-wide pause is needed. Also, being able to do screen grabs and updates and such would be pretty slick if one person did them all. Since he wouldn't be racing or mashaling, he can be the Murray Walker of this event (though actually describing the racing would be cool, I'm not implying he needs to). I should be able to set up a web cam using my spare phone, but I'm not sure what's the best service to use for that, and if it can do so into a group thing.

Speaking of which, does anyone know, or have experience with, a video conference calling service that would allow spectators to join and toggle/switch between the different "speakers" (video feeds) of the event? That would be a cool way of doing it.

 

[MrFlippant]

Looks like one of my group can host on that date, so if that does not change, we'd have 9x16 for a layout.

 

[chris99]

QUOTE (Minardi @ 19 Jan 2015, 12:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>@Chris99; Maybe there is a way, if you want and can help, to update overall standings every x minutes and post them on RCS64 forum, or alternative beter idea ?
As the overall race engineer

..
Oversize headphones and Red Bull shirt at the ready

Chris

 

[GRUNZ]

I have a very stupid question about the tyres: do we need also the front ones or only the back ones?

Looking through the website(route1racing), it seems that there are two compounds: medium and supersticky. Which one we go for?

Also, I am not sure that I saw rules about the guide and the braids. Should allow any? Or only stock scaley?

 

[Minardi]

Thanks for the input guys.

-So, NZ, USA and the Netherlands are ok with March 14/15(!)
Mr Modifier and Wraith, can you confirm ? And Chris ?

-About pit sensors, what Greg says. Not really necessary for this event. I see Greg doesn't have them on the temporary track, and I think more people don't.

-Agreed about the teams, minimum of 2 team members, 3 max.

-Total race time; I'd have to check. Anyway, qualifying makes sense, I am happy with that

-Tyres: We just change rear tyres. For the compund, I have no experience with these tyres, I think Mr Modifier should decide for us.

-For this time, let's keep the cars in out of the box shape, including the guides. Just take out magnet, and fit the urethane rear tyres.

-That said, It is wise to have at least 1 spare car ready at every location, just in case. If you know the C-numbers, please share them.

-Chris as the engineer would be fantastic, let's decide what programs to use and test.

- I would like to see 2 or 3 track lay-outs for the 1,5 x 5 m. with the same track pieces. Proposal: Chris decides on March 14 which track it will be

 

[GRUNZ]

Here are another couple of layouts based on the switchback I have posted earlier:

Switchback V2

Switchback V3

Both of them can fit on a 1.5m x 5m area: v3 needs just a bit more on the top left corner for the hammerhead. Both of them are over 19m in length so should give a nice lap. I have also marked the starting grid positions (up to 4 cars).

I am looking forward to other layout as well. However, let's try to come up with a nice flow limiting the number of R1s and corners with constant radii. Also let's avoid any squeeze/hairpin and corner crossovers.

 

[Minardi]

Great! We need markers for at least 12 cars

I am serious !

I don't have 6 XLC's, I don't mind replacing XLC's by normal track, let's say at least 3 XLC's are mandatory ?

PS Can you mirror v3 so that it drives completely different to v2 ?

 

[GRUNZ]

12??? man you need to build 2 tracks then!

I would say that for the layout above at least 4 XLC are needed. BUt again we have to agree on a minimum common list of track pieces.

This is mine:
8 XLC
36 full staights
7 half straights
2 quarter
2 short
12 single

8 R1 45
4 R1 22,5
20 R2 45
8 R2 22,5
18 R3
10 R4

I have only the left hand pit entry (2 pairs).

On which axle do you want me to rotate it?

 

[Minardi]

What would make It drive completely different, I guess X ?

I am serious about the 12 (possibly more) grid positions. For example, after qualifying you have the 12 th time, you start the 2 hr endurance on the 12 th track piece.

3 XLC's as minimum rule would be fine with me.

2 RH pitlane
4 XLC
6 R3
4 R4

Straights / R2 R1 etc no problem.

 

[chris99]

QUOTE (Minardi @ 20 Jan 2015, 07:38) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks for the input guys.

-So, NZ, USA and the Netherlands are ok with March 14/15(!)
Mr Modifier and Wraith, can you confirm ? And Chris ?
OK

Chris