[Rokkoko666]

Hi! I wonder if there are someone who also collect Le Mans winners?

 

[Bob]

QUOTE (Rokkoko666 @ 7 Feb 2004, 02:23 PM)Hi! I wonder if there are someone who also collect Le Mans winners?

Hi. I try to do complete years of the major entries or major rivals at Le Mans as well. 1956, 1958, 1959 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1983, 1988. Some big gaps (the Ford Mk4 in 1967 for example) and I do other tracks as well (Sebring, Goodwood) and series (Riverside 1963,64,65 &CANAM 1966,67). When I had a camera I posted some stuff (most of which has re-done) on the Fantasy World photo album under R.Allnutt. Bob

 

[Rokkoko666]

Hi Bob!

I think it´s hard to find the winners of the early 60´s. Where have you find your Ferraris?

Regards // Richard

 

[syd slot]

Le Mans cars (race or practice) is pretty much all I collect. There's some interesting stuff out there. Apart from the big makes, MMK have to be an obvious make to keep tabs on as they seem to focus on LM (www.mmkproduction.com). I've also got a set of the three Mercedes 300SL team cars from the 1952 race with the correct numbers and the blue, green and red grille markings - all from Slot Classic. The Ford Mk IV is available in RTR form from Le Mans Miniatures and is apparently going to be available (at least in kit form) to make up the other team cars. Proto Slot Kits make a very nice Porsche 908LH and a Ferrari 250LM (in red or yellow). Anni Mini (Any Slot) make a nice long tail Birdcage Maserati and two of the 1972 Matra 670s. I take it you've seen the Ferrari P3/4s from Racer (totally superb) - the Le Mans works cars haven't been announced to my knowledge but you could buy a plain red 'street' version and add the decals yourself. Dapretto make a few of themore unusual Le Mans Ferraris (I've got a 312P Coupe). MRRC are bringing out the Chaparral 2F at some point but have made some perfectly acceptable Porsche 904 kits in the recent past. There's a Spanish make that's made RTR Gulf Porsche 917LH (1971) and Ferrari 'Breadvans' - can't recall their name.

If you're a confident/competent scratch builder there are all manner of 1/32 plastic kits still available from auctions such as the Aston DB5, Triumph TR3, Lotus Elan, MGA, Rover-BRM (from Aurora, albeit it is really the practice car not the race car), 62 Corvette.

There a plenty to chose from (and plenty of others) so happy hunting!

 

[Rokkoko666]

syd slot: Thank you for your interesting thoughts. I´m unfortunately not a competent scratch builder... but I repaint if it´s necessary.

I wonder about these cars:

1950 Talbot Lago T26 GS #5
1951 Jaguar XK-120C #20
1954 Ferrari 275 Plus #4
1955 Jaguar D-Type #6
1956 Jaguar D-Type #4
1957 Jaguar D-Type #3
1960 Ferrari 250 TR 59/60 #11
1961 Ferrari 250 TRI/615 #10
1962 Ferrari 330 TRI/LM (Spyder) #6
1963 Ferrari 250 P #21
1964 Ferrari Tipo 275 P #20
1973 Matra Simca MS 670 B #11
1974 Matra Simca MS 670 C #7
1975 Gulf Mirage GR8 Gulf #11
1976 Porsche 936 Martini #20
1977 Porsche 936/77 Martini #4
1978 Renault Alpine A442B Elf #2
1979 Porsche 935 K3 Kremer #41 K3
1980 Rondeau M379B Le Point ITT #16
1981 Porsche 936/81 Jules #11
1988 Jaguar XJR-9 LM Silk Cut #2
1990 Jaguar XJR-12 Silk Cut #3

Kind regards // Richard

 

[Bob]

QUOTE (Rokkoko666 @ 7 Feb 2004, 05:32 PM)Hi Bob!

I think it´s hard to find the winners of the early 60´s. Where have you find your Ferraris?

Regards // Richard
Hi. The 62 Ferrari 330 TR/LM is clear plastic from Pattos; the 63 250Ps and 64 275/330Ps are from Monogram/MRRC; the 65 P2s are Strombecker/EJ; the 66 P3s are clear plastic, again fom Pattos. I will try to borrow a digital snapper and post here at some point if that's ok? Best, Bob

 

[Rokkoko666]

That would be very nice Bob! How is the bodies from Pattos?

 

[Bob]

QUOTE (Rokkoko666 @ 7 Feb 2004, 09:12 PM)That would be very nice Bob! How is the bodies from Pattos?

I like Pattos bodies, their decals and the service. I'm an average (but historically correct) modeler and the bodies suit me fine for models I can't get in hard plastic or resin.

Bob

 

[Turismo]

QUOTE (syd slot @ 7 Feb 2004, 06:18 PM)There's a Spanish make that's made RTR Gulf Porsche 917LH (1971) and Ferrari 'Breadvans' - can't recall their name.
I'd take a fair guess that Fly make a Gulf Porsche 917.

 

[550rs]

TopSlot make a very good 917LH kit - check the site's sponsors.
LH is for LangHeck, German for Long tail while the Fly cars are 917K for Kurz or Short. I'd guess there's not too many of either around The Alice and besides isn't everyone there buzzing about some new train, Turismo?

 

[Rokkoko666]

I guess that "syd slot" were talking about Slot Real Car.

http://www.slotracershardware.com/src_slotcars.html

 

[Russell Sheldon]

Hi Richard,

If you want "hard" bodies, Nostalgia Raceways makes a few that are on your list, in resin:-

1950 Talbot Largo 1950 "Le Mans" Sports
1951 Jaguar C type
1955-57 Jaguar D-Types
1960 Ferrari 250 TR 59/60

Nostalgia Raceways bodies are made by John Bacon and are available from Dave's Mundaring Hobby Centre.

BUM Slot also make a 1955 Jaguar D-Type and A2M makes a resin body.

MRRC makes the 1964 Ferrari Tipo 275 P #20, and Anni-Mini makes the 1974 Matra Simca MS670.

MRRC made a 1976 Porsche 936, which you may still find. Scalextric did a 1988 Jaguar XJR-9 LM Silk Cut, which wasn't too bad.

Here are pictures of a Betta vacuum-formed Jaguar XJR-8, that has been painted to look like the 1989 Le Mans winning XJR-9:-

Kind regards

Russell

 

[Rokkoko666]

Hi Russel! Thank you very much!

The 1964 Ferrari from MRRC. Is it the one with articel number 9905 that you can find att Pendle Slot Racing?

The Scalextric Jaguar XJR-9 is ok, but I have to repaint it. This is my all time favourite car! Can we hope that Slot It will make one?

Isn´t the Matra Simca from Anni-Mini from 1972?

Do you know where can I find the Porsche 936 from MRRC? Do you have a picture on this model?

Kind regards // Richard

 

[Russell Sheldon]

Isn´t the Matra Simca from Anni-Mini from 1972?

Richard, I think that you are correct. Anni-Mini lists the car as the Matra MS 670 V12, No.14, winner 1974 Le Mans 24 hour, but Henri Pescarolo and Gérard Larrousse won the 1974 event with a Matra-Simca MS670C, and it was car number 7!

Matra had 4 cars at Le Mans in 1972, a M660, and 3 M670's:-

This is the Anni-Mini car, the Cevert/Ganley Matra 670-02 at Le Mans in 1972:-

Cevert Le Mans 1973:-

Jabouille/Migault Matra-Simca MS670C Le Mans 1974:-

MRRC did a limited re-release of the Porsche 936 for the NSCC. Your best bet is to try Phil Smith.

I believe that the Pendle ref. 9905 is the 1964 winning Guichet - Vaccarella Ferrari.

Kind regards

Russell

 

[Rokkoko666]

Thanks again!

The winner 1972 was car number 15. Car number 14 finished at second place. http://user.tninet.se/~aiq291w/1972.htm

I believe that Anni-Minis models are these two cars but as you said... they list the number 14 as the car from 1974. http://www.circuits-routiers.asso.fr/nouve...s_anni_mini.htm

Kind regards // Richard

 

[fast lucky]

Regarding Slot Real Car's models, I would like to warn you AGAINST them.

I recently bought 3 of them. The 917/20 "Pink Pig" Porsche I got isn't perfect but I can go along with it. The two 917 LH (Martini and Gulf) is another story. One is poorly built and both have a livery far from satisfatory. Given the price of those models, I wouldn't recommend them.

You could ask me why did I buy them then ? Answer : when you buy on line, you don't see the cars you get ... If you sometimes experience some trouble with RTR cars (like I recently did with a Spirit Reynard), you have to be very cautious with artisanal models like Slot Real Car. One exception : Racer. These are simply wonderful.

 

[syd slot]

Hi Richard

Only just gone back to this thread hence the slow response. The Gulf Porsche 917LH I referred to was the Siffert/Bell #17 car which had a large teardrop area of orange across the top of the cockpit rather than the Rodriguez/Oliver #18 car (made by Top Slot) which had a longitudinal orange stripe. And 'yes' the 917LH and the Breadvan are from Slot Real - I may be wrong, but I think they were planning a 1/32 scale 917/20 'Plastic Pig'. I thought it might be possible to scratch build one from a 917LH kit but the nose is noticably shorter and the car is a lot wider overall.

Slot Real also announced a 1978 Renault Alpine 442B but I've never seen so much as a prototype.

I've not got the Anni Mini #14 Matra yet but I'm certain it was announced last year. The third 1972 670 was #12 I think but it failed to finish. All three had slightly different bodywork so it's not a straightforward repaint to make up all three 670 team cars.

I received the #28 and #29 Pegaso Spyders from the 1952 race (Slot Classic) a few weeks ago and they are superb resin models. However, they are something of a Le Mans curiosity as neither of them actually started the race due to practice problems. A bit like Maximodel's Ford J-Car.

 

[syd slot]

I think I'd have to agree with Fast Lucky's view of the Slot Real cars. With cars like this I'd prefer to buy them in kit form unless I know (as with Slot Classic) that the cars are expertly put together in RTR form. The Racer Ferrari P4s are simply beautiful from every angle though.. I bought the Ferrari 333SPs in kit form and in the end swapped them for RTR versions as the quality of construction was very high.

We've not mentioned the Slot-It Porsche 956/962s yet which are hopefully going to fill in a few gaps in the collection in the coming months.

 

[Rokkoko666]

Hi "syd slot"!

Yes, I´m dying for these Slot It-cars! If I´m right they will release the winners of 1982 (Rothmans) and 1984 (New Man). Maybe there also will be a model of the 962 Porsche from 1986 or 1987. At Slot It´s web page you can also se a picture of the Dauer Porsche. If they also will release that one from 1994, it´s christmas for me!

ps. Ohh... I forgot the Porsche 956 with Boss advertise! Beautiful!

 

[fast lucky]

The Matra # 14 done for Anni-Mini is already out for quite a while. I think Getslotted still have that car in stock.

It is not cheap and not tremendous value for money, but at least the end result is superior than the one provided by Slot Real Car. Of course, the model is supplied with unapplied decals.