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LED issues on Arc Air

3.8K views 6 replies 3 participants last post by  Dr_C  
#1 ·
Hi,

I recently purchased a second hand Scalextric F1 Merc safety car online. When it arrived it became apparent that it wasn't a standard car.

On looking inside it was full of all sorts of black magic! I made contact with the supplier who informed me it needed to be on a specific set up (he did offer to refund me)

However I liked the car and decided to take the novice approach of stripping it out and making it a basic car with roof lights.(how hard could it be!)

So I removed all the extra black magic parts including motor, and put it together again. Unfortunately l blew the roof lights whilst trying to establish what the 5 or 6 wires did.

I installed a set of micro flashing Leds with resistor soldered on for good measure Into the roof. I tested the car and lights on a sport power base with track, and all worked well.

I put the car on my Arc Air circuit and it ran ok but no roof lights? It still runs ok on the sport test track section, what have I done wrong please?

I swapped the wires over on the motor and tried again but still no roof lights on the Air?

I look forward to your response/ assistance.

Ron
 
#2 ·
What you bought was a "Challenger" car that works with a special bit of track that let's the car run as a "ghost" car against other cars without a driver. It was an analog system that actually had adapters to let it race on Scalextric, SCX, Ninco and Carrera track.

Where are the lights connected to the car? At the pick up braids? Motor? Before or after the suppressor (ferritte man)?
 
#3 ·
Likely the issue here is that the LED needs a continuous voltage whereas ARC AIR provides a fast switching waveform (known as pulse width modulation). If this is the issue then you would need a diode and a small capacitor to generate a steady dc voltage for the light flashing circuit.

C
 
#6 ·
Not a lot. The capacitor (also known as a gold cap) is just soldered in place. They usually can't handle more than 5 volts though so you need resistors or a voltage regulator.

Important is to pick a Farad value you are happy with. The higher, the longer the cars lights stay on but also the longer it take to fully charge. The lights will go on however even if the capacitor isn't fully charged yet.
 
#7 · (Edited by Moderator)
I believe there are two distinct ideas in here... with different solutions...

To get the flashing circuit running on the ARC AIR we simply need a diode from the motor positive running to the positive terminal of a 25V rated electrolytic capacitor. Negative motor terminal to the capacitor negative. We can then connect the LED via its series resistor across the capacitor termnals. The PWM in the ARC AIR is running at a few hundred pulses per second so a relatively small capacitor value should be fine e.g. 10-100microFarads.

The idea of super capacitors - is that they can hold enough charge to keep the lights turned on after deslots... esp useful for marshalling while racing in the dark. Super capacitors are typically only rated to 5V - hence the need for a regulator circuit alongside the diode and capacitor.

So for your requirement a simple diode and conventional electrolytic capacitor should be fine... but definitely make sure the capacitor is adequately rated... I would suggest 25V as ARC AIR runs at 15V but may have some transition spikes too.

C