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Hi, I have just got my Scalextric Le Mans 24hr (C812) set out the loft for the first time in about 15 years, 3 of my cars are needing some minor repairs. To be honest, I have had a look at some of the websites selling spares, but I dont have a clue what parts I need, so im hoping some of you guys can help me out.

First car needing repaired is a Toshiba Porsche 962 #24 (C356W)

As you can see in the pic below the magnet has come away, compared to the newer cars I have bought, the magnet is very weak. Instead of just glueing it back on, I was thinking of buying new stronger magnets for all my older cars. Can someone tell me if I need to buy a specific magnet to fit each car or are they universal fitting.


The 2nd and 3rd cars im looking for advice with are a AEG Mercedes Sauber C9/88 #62 (C357)

And a Ford Cosworth Mondeo #15 (C424)

As you can see some wheels have come off. The axles do not look sheared, it looks to me just like they have just seperated with age. I have tried glueing them back on, but after a few laps they just fell off again.
Can someone tell me if there is a knack to glueing them back on, or should I see about buying new wheel/axle assemblies, if so, what do i need to buy.
If I manage to carry out these repairs that im sure are very basic to most of you, then next on my list is my Dads old 1960's cars.
Thanks in advance for all your help and advice
 

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Hi Timshill,

Welcome to SlotForum.

QUOTE (Timshill @ 17 Oct 2011, 17:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Can someone tell me if I need to buy a specific magnet to fit each car or are they universal fitting.

The 2nd and 3rd cars im looking for advice with are a AEG Mercedes Sauber C9/88 #62 (C357)

And a Ford Cosworth Mondeo #15 (C424)

As you can see some wheels have come off. The axles do not look sheared, it looks to me just like they have just seperated with age. I have tried glueing them back on, but after a few laps they just fell off again.
Can someone tell me if there is a knack to glueing them back on, or should I see about buying new wheel/axle assemblies, if so, what do i need to buy.

Measure the rectangular box the old magnet was glued into. This is the dimension you need to look for on that world famous auction site. Neodymium magnets are WAY stronger than old ferrous magnets.

BUT- make sure you use a really strong glue or the magnet will rip itself out and stick to the track causing a short and you don't want that. If you use a glue that requires a curing time to achieve full strength then make sure you give it that time before being tempted to try it out.

By the looks of it you need a 25mm x 8mm or a 20mm x 6mm magnet or thereabouts but measure accurately to be sure.

On the wheels falling off thing - you probably need new wheels and a new axle and contrate gear (the gear in the middle of the axle) wouldn't be a bad idea. HOWEVER if you have mentally written off the wheels and axles you might like to try this before binning them. The inside of the wheels have probably worn to a larger diameter. You could try using the wire cutting blades in a standard pair of pliers to pinch the axle ends in several places creating a slightly thicker and serrated axle end. Push this into the wheels with a suitable strong glue (an epoxy glue might be better than superglue), let the glue cure properly and away you go. BUT if you do this - don't expect to be able to get the wheels back off without destroying them! When you do push the wheels back on the axle with the glue in them give them a little spin to make sure they aren't skewed. It's probably best to regard this as a temporary fix until you can get new wheels and axles.

You haven't mentioned the tyres. They are probably very hard if not completely perished. If you can get new tyres to fit it will make a massive difference - you run the risk with a stronger magnet of sitting there watching a car with its wheels furiously spinning but not moving due to the downforce being greater than the grip!

Hope that helps.
 

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Caution! If you add a high strength magnet then the motor won't be man enough - you would have to update to a recent motor.
 

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Thanks very much, ill give that a try.
If I end up going for replacement wheels and axles for my cars, are they a universal size or do I need specific sets according to the car they will go on
 

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QUOTE (RikoRocket @ 17 Oct 2011, 19:33) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Caution! If you add a high strength magnet then the motor won't be man enough - you would have to update to a recent motor.
ok, thanks for that advice, what would be the best motors to go for, are Scalextric brand motors ok or are some other makes better ?
 

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There are probably lot's of "no-magnet" racer or club members here that could slip a couple magnets into an envelope and send you if you ask. I'm located a bit far away, put send me PM if noby responds.

As mentiond modern magnets are strong so you can hotglue them inside the chassis and still get good downforce, that also eliminate both the track hazard and motor issues.

As for the wheels slipping off the axle I suspect you did not clean the axle and hub prior to gluig them? Submerge both in hot dishwash water and scrub them clean with an old tothbrush. To glue them use either superglue or Loctite threadlock (medium strenght), add a drop to the axle tip and assemble firmly.

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QUOTE (356speedster @ 17 Oct 2011, 19:55) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There are probably lot's of "no-magnet" racer or club members here that could slip a couple magnets into an envelope and send you if you ask. I'm located a bit far away, put send me PM if noby responds.

As mentiond modern magnets are strong so you can hotglue them inside the chassis and still get good downforce, that also eliminate both the track hazard and motor issues.

As for the wheels slipping off the axle I suspect you did not clean the axle and hub prior to gluig them? Submerge both in hot dishwash water and scrub them clean with an old tothbrush. To glue them use either superglue or Loctite threadlock (medium strenght), add a drop to the axle tip and assemble firmly.

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Thanks, ill give that and Mr Modifier's tip about pinching the axle with pliers a try, I will take a trip to my local B&Q store tomorrow and also get some decent glue. I would prefer to keep the original wheels on the car unless I absolutely have to replace them.
 

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QUOTE (Timshill @ 17 Oct 2011, 18:42) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok, thanks for that advice, what would be the best motors to go for, are Scalextric brand motors ok or are some other makes better ?

There is a halfway house - fit a smaller magnet OR raise the magnet further away from the track (requires some engineering!)

I have a Scalextric Taurus NASCAR and that had the conventional old magnet that had gone rusty. I replaced it with a neodymium magnet and it hauls it along at speed no problem BUT the Taurus has a modern looking Mabuchi motor already in it.

Motor types will spark a HUGE debate. To be honest I would try to get a motor that FITS. I'm guessing you would like to race these three cars at home rather than enter them for club competitions. I respectfully suggest the aim for you should be to get them as evenly matched as possible. This implies going for the same motor is more important than going for the best motor.

I have just looked again at your photos. If the other two cars have the same motor as the Porsche I think they will haul the stronger magnets just fine. If they don't, or if one of them is plain tired then the Porsche has what looks like the standard Scalextric Mabuchi motor. You can pick these up on evilbay for about £3 each + postage.

As to your question about axles wheels and tyres - the Scalextric axle is a standard 3/32" diameter. BUT there are loads of different lengths. Wheels and tyres vary in diameter and width. You need to measure your existing wheels/tyres combos and try to get the same.

It's tricky. You could do worse than find a swapmeet near you OR get on to one of the specialist suppliers with your dimensions and requirements and see what they suggest.

HOWEVER - look at what it will cost you to put them right vs. what you can buy fairly recent slot cars for and you might decide its cheaper to replace the cars! That is unless they have special meaning for you.

Having said that -it's fun sorting out cars - you just need to acquire a box of bits or buy some spares or repair collections off ebay and away you go.
 

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QUOTE (Mr Modifier @ 17 Oct 2011, 20:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There is a halfway house - fit a smaller magnet OR raise the magnet further away from the track (requires some engineering!)

I have a Scalextric Taurus NASCAR and that had the conventional old magnet that had gone rusty. I replaced it with a neodymium magnet and it hauls it along at speed no problem BUT the Taurus has a modern looking Mabuchi motor already in it.

Motor types will spark a HUGE debate. To be honest I would try to get a motor that FITS. I'm guessing you would like to race these three cars at home rather than enter them for club competitions. I respectfully suggest the aim for you should be to get them as evenly matched as possible. This implies going for the same motor is more important than going for the best motor.

I have just looked again at your photos. If the other two cars have the same motor as the Porsche I think they will haul the stronger magnets just fine. If they don't, or if one of them is plain tired then the Porsche has what looks like the standard Scalextric Mabuchi motor. You can pick these up on evilbay for about £3 each + postage.

As to your question about axles wheels and tyres - the Scalextric axle is a standard 3/32" diameter. BUT there are loads of different lengths. Wheels and tyres vary in diameter and width. You need to measure your existing wheels/tyres combos and try to get the same.

It's tricky. You could do worse than find a swapmeet near you OR get on to one of the specialist suppliers with your dimensions and requirements and see what they suggest.

HOWEVER - look at what it will cost you to put them right vs. what you can buy fairly recent slot cars for and you might decide its cheaper to replace the cars! That is unless they have special meaning for you.

Having said that -it's fun sorting out cars - you just need to acquire a box of bits or buy some spares or repair collections off ebay and away you go.
yeah, it will just be home racing, at the moment i dont have any plans to seek out and join a club (if there are any near me)
i dont have any sentimental attachment to the cars, but i hate throwing things like that out, hence the reason i have a 17 year old scalextric set, a 32 year old race n chase set and also my dads scalextric stuff from the 1960's. probably the old mechanic in me
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

Slot-It do a stronger magnet which fits straight into the magnet space on the chassis on these older cars, the motor if still working good, will be ok. I have one in a Mondeo and its much quicker even with the existing motor. You can acquire it from most on line slot car retailers such as Pendles.

As regards the wheels and axles, there is plenty of good advice in the comments above, I just superglue the end of the axle and put the wheel on, then after about a minute, spin the axle. Its not a permanent fix as they can drop off the axle again but spare wheels and axles are available. If you call Pendles or other retailers on the phone they can probably talk you through what you need and what they can send you.

Hope you enyoy your cars!!!

Matthew
 

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QUOTE (Timshill @ 17 Oct 2011, 17:31) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As you can see some wheels have come off. The axles do not look sheared, it looks to me just like they have just seperated with age. Can someone tell me if there is a knack to glueing them back on
This era of cars all tend to do this.
Theres no knack, just a decent glue. I find a decent plastic glue will do the job, or...

QUOTE (Julian_Boolean @ 17 Oct 2011, 19:07) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Araldite will hold the wheels on
Hardcore!


QUOTE (Timshill @ 17 Oct 2011, 19:43) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>definitely wont be binning my cars now, according to this website Scalextric-car.co.uk, one of my cars is "very rare"
Rare vs Desirable & Valuable.
Two different things.
 

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QUOTE (matthew77 @ 18 Oct 2011, 08:34) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi and welcome to the forum.

Slot-It do a stronger magnet which fits straight into the magnet space on the chassis on these older cars, the motor if still working good, will be ok. I have one in a Mondeo and its much quicker even with the existing motor. You can acquire it from most on line slot car retailers such as Pendles.

As regards the wheels and axles, there is plenty of good advice in the comments above, I just superglue the end of the axle and put the wheel on, then after about a minute, spin the axle. Its not a permanent fix as they can drop off the axle again but spare wheels and axles are available. If you call Pendles or other retailers on the phone they can probably talk you through what you need and what they can send you.

Hope you enyoy your cars!!!

Matthew
Thanks, I had a look on their website last night.
I found a shop on the other side of glasgow from me in Paisley, Paisley Model Centre , but they dont sell magnets, only tyres, some motors and gears. There is a shop in Glasgow City centre call D & F which is where i bought the BMW above, but they dont have a website, so ill pop in see if they have anything before I order online.
Thanks for the help
 

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QUOTE (Robb @ 18 Oct 2011, 14:41) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>This era of cars all tend to do this.
Theres no knack, just a decent glue. I find a decent plastic glue will do the job, or...

Hardcore!


Rare vs Desirable & Valuable.
Two different things.

Hardcore it is then lol..
 
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