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Mabuchi motor variation?

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Evening all, has anyone noticed the extreme variaton in performance among the Mabuci motors that Scalextric and Fly are using lately? I have just been handed a most disappointing Scalextric Camaro. It was supposed to run against their Mustang. The chassis are the same, sidewinder layout. Length and track are the same. The Mustang runs a 4.2 second lap (best on 55.3 feet of track) The Camaro barely runs 5.3 seconds. Two weeks ago I bought two Fly 917 porsches, one runs 4.8 seconds, the other 4.4 seconds. they are tuned identically for competition with each other. .4 seconds is a very large gap on the track. All these cars have their stock Mabuchi motors. The faster motors have been switched among the cars and the variaton lies with the motors. I'm considering always buying the Slot It motor, the way I always buy better tires and magnets when I buy a new car. (So I can spend more money to field a car.) I'll stop whining now. Anyone else?
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Yes, Diff, they are slow out of the box and stay slow. I seriously doubt I'll see a half second improvement. Also, as this motor heats up it gets a bit slower. This camaro is the slowest car in the stable. I have thoroughly gone over the rest of the car and I find no rubbing or snags anywhere. I tried a faster motor from another car and it does speed it up so I am sure the new motor is weak. I will probably go with a Slot It v-12 and call it done. They have been consistent performers in my other sidewinders, turning in solid 4.4-4.5 second laps on the Porsches and GT-40's. I well may start buying a fast motor with most every car I buy henceforth (especially if it has a Mabuchi on board). So, tires, magnet, and MOTOR before test. These cars are called ready to race?


(more whining) (sorry)

Harry
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Thanks for all the replies! Very helpful. I went the Slot It v-12, 11 tooth pinion, dual Neo magnets, ('neath the axle and the stock position ahead of the motor) and silicone tires. It will pull a solid 4.6 second lap, so in competition I might see 4.5. Still, its a far cry from the solid 4.2 mustang. I'm done tuning it for now as it will compete with more of the club's cars. Some interesting points here. I don't ordinarily leave the car shop without the tires and magnet (and lately the motor). I have yet to be able to race the cars right out of the box in terms of being able to use the whole motor and see clean laps at track speed. I usually only need tires and a magnet with enough downforce to get the tires to hook up and no more. I still very much need to drive the car. Perhaps the "ready-to-race" is merely a technicality. I would appreciate cars being made available without motors, tires, and magnets and lower the price maybe a third. I now have a car I can race with but spent half again the price of the car to get there (disappointing). This was the first Scalextric car I have had such bad luck with(out of about a dozen this year). I too, have noticed that the IRL cars are very close in performance, and pleasantly fast to race with for the price plus simple mods (solid 4.5 sec. with tires and a better magnet). On the P.C.O.D. track the best motors are 25,000-30,000 rpm in all the cars. The Slot It v-12/25 is a stellar performer with these cars, excellent torque and wide power band. Thank you all for reading and responding to my whining disappointment.


Modifyingly yours,
Harry
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Gary, I heard the same thing about the timing of the motors. I was told by a large stocker that he had approached Mabuchi and asked if they would consider a 15 degree timing advance and they wouldn't even entertain it. True, revs arent the whole story. I have noticed that these motors get quite hot regardless of their rev capability. My Nascars will burn you after a dozen or so fast laps. I think I will try to listen to a new Mabuchi motor befor buying the car. Good idea.

Harry
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