[astro]

I've probably posted too much on this topic already..

Firstly, thanks again aaron for replacement chassis for my pair of fly gt40s

I am glad that constructive criticism is appreciated, about the shape and running of cars, but a few paragraphs later you defend fly's shape.

I have never commented on the daytona's shape, cos i don't know the original. The GT40 (1:1) is my fav car, and it seems to be generally accepted the shape is incorrect.

There are many arguements given to defend shape inaccuracies - like making sure it runs fast on the track, like making room for the internal mechanisms etc.

However, as we know, scalextric have already made a GT40 that has gone down with almost universal praise. Its shape is right in general look, people haven't niggled over it, and it runs very wel indeed.

In fact, I think you will be hard pushed to find the shape or scale criticisms about scalextric or revell on these boards. That isn't cos we don't care about the shape of these cars, but because they are certainly very close to the correct shape.

Fly do offer fantastic detail and finishing, and higher prices (due to spanish rather than chinese production, presumably), and they have also produced cars that seem to have been pleasing to the 'rivet counters' - eg the saleen, and apparently the corvette too.

But I think the reason there i so much noise about fly shape is that there really is a problem, theres no smoke without fire. I personally think that if the bashing element is a problem to the hobby and to the board, then the advice should be 'Tell us the shape is wrong, but be constructive' rather than 'shut up and stop ur moaning'

 

[astro]

Aaron made an interesting point about the expert/fact quality of criticisms (and compliments i guess), although one of the posts that started this all did seem to have expert measurements to back it up, but anyway...

But surely the whole point of this forum is for us to pool our EXPERIENCE, which leads to opinions. It is brilliant when a genuine expert, be it on electronics, vacu-forming, or whatever, gives us the 'facts' (though lets face it, in all areas of expertise, the experts debate what the facts and correct ways are just as much as us).

Anyone who uses the forum quickly finds that there are differing opinions on any issue, and learns to take anything said with a pinch of salt. And if you do have an opinion about a good or bad quality, or method of tuning, its great to hear other peoples opinions and experiences.

It should be clear that to some of us, scale and proportion DOES matter, and we are interested in what others with similar priorities think. Some people seem to get annoyed when we express our observations or discontentments, My only suggestion is that the moderators set up a new board called 'SCALE ISSUES' or some such, so that we can talk about this stuff, and people who are offended by our attraction and interest to the hobby can easily bypass such threads.

But I would implore Aaron to pass on to Fly that there are a number of people to whom it DOES matter whether the shape is right, even though that is not his or everyones opinion

Right I have SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO had enough of this topic, I hope I can leave it at that now!

 

[astro]

I am not at all convinced it was a balanced or fair review, I think RR had to stifle a lot of his opinions for diplomacy's sake and fear of retribution. The car is either really brilliant, or else RR has written a review looking on the bright side, not unlike those you find on e-shops that wish to sell the car whilst giving some semblance of balance. I could be wrong, only RR knows for sure. It was still an interesting piece of writing, whatever.

 

[astro]

How many forum members buy limited editions?

a lot on here are after racing and will buy a cheaper livery, but many will buy the limited edition.

As mentioned, many people will read/be told of the posts and absorb or agree with the info without posting, what they think has already been said

And some readers will think all this talk is a load of nonsense.

So trying to guage the influence and representability of this forum is difficult.

However, market researching such a specific and targeted product must be very difficult, you cant just pick 5000 random people off the street and ask them what they reckon.

Admittedly forum posters represent the more outspoken, and possibly more enthusiastic members of the slot buying public, but we may be able to give more hints about what the market wants than any other group of people

 

[astro]

good points above

the way I see it, on here are a lot of enthusiastic and passionate fans of slot cars and slot racing, and we like to kick ideas and opinions about, seeing what each other thinks and so on.

Aaron, and other manufacturers/distributors etc: I would recommend not getting drawn into these debates, (or create another identity to add your opinion as an individual or slot fan, other than your guagemaster professional identity). Rather, observe the feelings, and report to manufacturers the feelings we have as you see fit, and in ur representative of distributer persona, if you still feel like it (and I hope so), helping and advising and acting as a go between as you have generously volunteered to do so.

We here on slot forum are not all diplomats or politicians, we just speak our minds and sometimes it becomes heated, so appologies to any unpleasantness that may have been caused