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QUOTE (Swissracer @ 6 Feb 2004, 01:51 PM)I will add here as it seems pertinant that it has come to our (Nuro and Myself) attention that people are quoting SlotForums name when approaching Shops, Distributors and Manufacturers for freebies to review.
It just gets worse!


Perhaps I should adjust the percentage figures I quoted in my earlier post, but I am sincerely hoping I have never met the people concerned.

A good point about purchasing review cars, Swiss. The one I did left me feeling a bit of a fraud because I actually wanted to say that the car was not as good as one done by another manufacturer, but I felt it was not very tactful. Luckily enough the person who asked me to do the review reminded me that it was not a comparison, simply my reaction to the car in question.

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Out of order.

Should we be naming names here? I guess not, those who are guilty know who they are but I hope they hang their heads in shame. I also hope, 'cos I'm a little mean, that one of them doesn't read this thread, goes and asks again and gets a stern rebuff.

Curious what GG says about the NSCC reviews because I reckon that period of time he is refering to is about the same as the one that drove me to give up on that organisation.
 

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You have just highlighted one of my main concerns concerning `giving up`. That`s part of the reason for my posting in the last couple of days. We are part of an organisation and should be proud of SF and I believe, to misquote JFK...

"Don`t ask what Slot Forum can do for you but ask what can you do for Slot Forum?"
 

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QUOTE "Don`t ask what Slot Forum can do for you but ask what can you do for Slot Forum?"

Erm... give all your new cars to me and Nuro to review?


Serious helps wanted -

Some of those mini aftermarket item reviews (look for my Slot.It guide upgrade posts)

Pics! the more the better
We LOVE pics!

Hey you know what would be cool ?

Pics taken of real versions of cars produced as slots, but taken from the side / front/ rear etc at a distance equal to the size of a 1/32 car at say two feet away.

Wankel - Nah! no naming names..... It was a generic request for the future, no point having a go when it has already been and gone.
 

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I've finally plucked up enough courage (or stupidity?
) to dive in and post my opinion on this topic.

I think what all this boils down to is the male psyche. We all get passionate about things we like, especially when in our case it's fast things:- Race cars, fast women, aircraft, scratch-built toy bus!!
Quite a few people on here know, love and have maybe even owned the real car that the model is based on. These people can immediately tell if something about the model isn't quite right - their enthusiasm and knowledge of the subject facilitates this. They quite rightly feel upset, because in their mind "how can anyone make such a mistake? Everyone knows it's meant to be THIS shape!" Maybe if the manufacturers said look, we know this is different to the 1:1 car, but we had to do it like that because.... Then again, the manufacturer doesn't have to justify their production methods for the sake of satisfying a few individuals. Plenty of customers will no doubt purchase a car because of a hazy childhood memory seeing it tear round a track.

A couple of examples from my own slot car stable. I've never seen an Audi R8 LMP car in the flesh. On buying the crocodile liveried SCX example for my daughter I thought surely the real car doesn't have that bloody great round bulge above the centre of the rear axle? No it doesn't, but the slot car's crownwheel has to go somewhere doesn't it? I've also got several Ford Capris including a pair of the Scaley ltd. ed. run of 1000 green and blue 3.0s Although the front grille and lights were moulded in, they weren't painted, the boot spoiler isn't quite moulded correctly. No way can you have wheels that wide fit under the standard arches, even though the 4 spoke representation was available on the real car. Oh and the rear bumpers were mounted upside down. Yet everyone knows it's a Capri...

Rest assured if a manufacturer brings out a 2.8i Capri I feel confident enough to know if it will pass muster or not. However, at the same time that manufacturer will be praised for producing a model of something I own and feel passionate about.


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I agree that maufacturers are producing stacks of cars that people want to collect and race in ever growing quantities. We've never had so good in terms the array of different cars available now and overall the cars are well made and detailed and are faithful reproductions of the real thing - with a few minor discrepancies. I for one can live with these as long as the car flys around the track.

PS Looking forward to the new Ninco Porsche!
 

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Nice Logo mate! You`ll see that elsewhere someone posted that the 934 did Rally! Oh no
Thought you may have changed your name to Biker Tim after the Toyfair experience. You are trhe only guy I know of who has actually played with them.
 

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Nice one Jonny. Yeah, the bikes looked nice but seemed a bit wobbly.
Mind you they are the pre production models so we'll have to see!

See you later

 

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say what I want, for SF I buy the cars, I never thought of saying it's a review for SF.. might have to try that!


no seriously, bought the porno 911 sean'll back me up and I bought the aa lambo, if it arrives as I'm getting one for me 3.9 bsn and Mk2 aslong as my man gets 4 in

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Just read this thread and felt the NSCC, me and Brian came in for a bit of a bashing.

Couple of points regarding the NSCC reviews. To explain and confirm I am the NSCC's liaison with Tecnitoys/Bachmann (SCX), my tasks include receiving news from them, asking them members questions, keeping members upto date with release dates and last, but not least, arranging for reviews of new models.

Over the last twelve months Tecnitoys and Bachmann have sent me approx. 12 cars, 4 for the Christmas competition, and 8 review models, of these 7 have been reviewed in the journal. In addition to the cars they also supplied track sections and accessories. All of these have been reviewed by me and apart from the Le Mans track (which I kept after review) the rest went into the Christmas competition prize lot.

I set up this liaison with Tecnitoys for the benefit of NSCC members and not for personal gain.

The review models I send out for review are given to members who are willing to write an honest review in what ever style they choose. I have only ever edited one review and when I did my comments were clearly indicated.

If a reviewer feels that the car is not up to scratch then he/she is free to say so and one more than one occasion this has been the case.

I do not ask the reviewers to give a favourable review and do not suggest a method of review.

I gave the model of the Gulf Fiat Arbath to Mr M to review and had he said it was no good I would have printed it! After the review I purchased one of these models for my own collection something I have done with most of the SCX models I have arranged reviews for.

I spend a considerable amount of my private time talking to manufacturers on behalf of the NSCC and take issue with people suggesting that I do this for personal gain.

I completely agree with Aaron's comments regarding his previous experience of sending review models to the NSCC (or someone claiming to represent the NSCC!) and then not seeing reviews printed, this particular incident set the club back several years and we have (hopefully) only just got over it. The individual concerned knows who he is and is a regular Forum contributor!

I agree that it would be better if people reviewed cars they had bought themselves, but in my experience very few people are willing to do this! Generally people buy cars they like therefore any review will be biased. I feel that keeping the review model is only fair for someone spending time to write the reviews for others.

I know for a fact that Tecnitoys/Bachmann are pleased with their relationship with the NSCC and value the feedback they get from our members through me. On more than one occasion it has lead to direct change to product specification.

If any member of the NSCC would like to complain about what I am trying to do or would like to have a go themselves, please feel free to contact Brain (the editor) or myself.

I am also on the NSCC committee and my other role is NSCC Promotion. In this role I talk to all the manufacturers, most of them on a weekly basis at the moment. Any of them reading this will I hope realise that I do not do any of it for personal gain.

My aim, via the NSCC, is to promote the hobby of collecting and racing Slot cars made by all manufacturers. I do this because I enjoy it not to bolster my personal collection or gain wealth by selling cars for a profit.

Sorry this is such a long reply, but certain members comments made me fume!

Constructive criticism if fine, but if you continue to attack manufacturers and distributors they will turn away very quickly.

Gareth Jex
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This is the first Fly car I have reviewed since well before I started the rail racing in the beginning of 2000 and the last one I will ever write.

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RR dont let us put you off mate!

Everybody wants reviews everyone likes to have something to talk about and generally banter about thoughts etc

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I haven't seen a single post claiming to NOT want to read this review and lots of encouragement to go ahead - reads like conclusive support to me.
Go for it RR!
 
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Thank you for the kind remarks, What I am going to do is write a really good Daytona article more of a Ferrari/Daytona story than a review Which I am going to do tomorrow as Richard is coming home to help me.

Now I love the real car how could anyone who has seen the first Cannonball Film not what one, I loved that Red Daytona convertible and the Red 365BB in the picture below could have been a 365GTB easily.

Their is something magic in being in a 12 cylinder Ferrari with competition exhausts your foot welded to the floor watching the front of the car rise as you accelerate like a jet fighter down the runway.

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QUOTE (JEXY1 @ 6 Feb 2004, 06:50 PM)Just read this thread and felt the NSCC, me and Brian came in for a bit of a bashing.
I would like to say that I know Brian from swapmeets, the odd motor race and a few e-mails and have every confidence that he is an honest and dedicated editor for the NSCC journal.

He asked me to write a review of a slot car several years ago for which I was allowed to keep the car as payment. Brian asked for an honest view of the car from me and printed the article in the journal verbatim.

It took me about an hour of track testing, several hours to write and photograph and a day or so of re-reading and editing the article before submitting it to Brian. I think it was reasonable that I was allowed to keep the review car.

Brian told me it was his policy to offer cars to various club members so that everyone got a chance and when you look at the journal this fact is borne out with many different reviewers names appearing.

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Seems like I've come into this thread late, but I want to make a couple of points regarding reviews.
Nuro & Swiss have been kind enough to publish a couple of my reviews on this forum and I am quietly chuffed that my contributions were accepted.
The reviews were originally produced for my own website and were cars that I bought myself. All the reviews on my site are of cars which I have paid for, with one exception, a GB Track truck supplied by Sean at Pendle for a review on his site.
I do not work for or have any affiliation with any club, shop, dealer, distributor or manufacturer. I try to be unbiased and have no interest in bashing any manufacturer. I don't claim to be any sort of expert. I just like playing with toy cars and then writing about them!
But I'm only expressing my opinion. As Aaron rightly says, it's a personal opinion. You may agree, disagree or think that I'm a total plonker. That's your opinion. That's what makes it interesting.
I wanted to say this so that Aaron and everyone else knows were I'm coming from.

Rob


PS how many people read only one review on any particular car? I usually check half a dozen different sites and get as much info as possible before parting with the hard-earned. Or am I just tight?
 
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