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MEGANE TROPHY 3.5 litres 320hp

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Continuing the sporting tradition of the Renault 5 Turbo, Alpine, Spider and Clio V6, all of which made their marks on European race tracks over the last 25 years, the Mégane Trophy - unveilled at next week's Paris Motor Show - is set to take to the grid in 2005.

Renault designers have taken the Mégane Renaultsport 225 and refined its sleek lines to come up with a silhouette racer resembling the awesome German touring cars. It's bodywork - lowered by a full 10 centimetres - widened wheel arches and rear diffuser combine to give the 155mph plus Mégane Trophy incredible looks and a powerful stance.

Renaultsport's latest offering pulls out all the stops to deliver a powerful product with single-seater values. Its tubular chassis, mid-engined V6 powerplant and semi-automatic gearbox make this a top level racing machine.

The 3.5-litre V6 engine fitted to Espace and Vel Satis powers the engine of the Mégane Trophy but in this case, the unit develops more than 320hp and features semi dry sump lubrication.

The Megane's electronic control system is by Magneti-Marelli and covers all engine, gearbox and automatic clutch management functions plus the data acquisition that is essential for drivers and engineers to unleash every fraction of the car's performance.

Driveability is also enhanced by the specially-designed Michelin tyres, while stopping power comes courtesy of ventilated discs with six-pot callipers at the front and four-pot at the rear.

In dynamics terms, strong power-to-weight ratio and wind-tunnel developed aerodynamics, make Mégane Trophy comparable with some GT racers.

Next spring, around 30 Mégane Trophy racers will feature in a championship covering eight European race meetings with two races at most venues.

After its grand unveiling on the Renault Compétition stand of the Paris Motor Show (Hall 7.2), the Mégane Trophy will be given an initial shakedown at the end of October before the first development tests get underway in November.

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QUOTE Would you believe 1.8 secs. in a RS 200!

No I don't.


Check out American top-fuel dragsters, with 8000HP and of comparable weight: it takes them over 1 of their 4.5 seconds in the quarter to reach 60. After that of course it gets pretty exciting... So 1.8" with 700HP, when a Champ Car takes nearly 3 seconds to get there?
Right.
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Sidewinder, I was just about to post that.

TSRF I have seen it done in 2.8 seconds. I frankly don't care what you think on the matter as you have obviously not recently seen the RS200 replicas and originals that have been tuned.

Baz
I cant vouch for that particular RS but it has long be accepted that the top rallycross cars can accellerate faster than an F1 car.
Anybody got Martin Schanke,s e.mail ?

Richard
QUOTE top rallycross cars can accellerate faster than an F1 car.

F1 cars aren't built for acceleration only, top speed 210mph.

Rally cars are, top speed 120mph.

I'm sure if you paid someone enough money, they could build you a car with awesome acceleration then they might be able to crack sub 3's. But it's still doubtful.

You can have as much power in the world, but you still have the eternal weight struggle. It needs to be light, so there is less mass to accelerate. And it needs to be heavy to keep traction to prevent wheelspin.

Also, wide tyres means more rubber on the road, but the increased area combined with the same mass of the car means there is less pressure from the tyre on the road.

You'd also need an engine with a power band which can take the car from stand still to 60mph without havong to change gears.

Aerodynamics are also important, even at that speed...

And on top of all that, you'd need an awesome driver and time to have about 50 trys... a tailwind... a hot day... grippy tarmac...

It's not gonna happen basically...

McLaren
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Does anyone read EVO magazine at all?

Its got an article on an RS200 prepped for Pikes Peak. Can't remember exactly what its HP figure was but something like 800. It didn't beat the McF1 to 60 but battered it by a second to 120. However its all down to gearing as the RS200 tops out at 140ish.

Turbos OK but you have to work it becuase you have to get the boost up at the right point exiting a corner or your hanging around with the car in a straight line waiting for the tubby to spool up.

Mind you, theres not much lag on my Impreza as its got the puniest compressor wheel I've ever seen.
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These figures might be of interest. The info has been taken from a site called supercars.net. This is only the top 10 entrys - it goes up to 50.

I don't know how accurate these are; I wouldn't take it as gospel, but then I'm a real sceptic...

Quickest 0 - 60...

1. 2.6 seconds 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
2. 2.7 seconds 2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept
3. 2.7 seconds 2000 Dodge Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
4. 2.7 seconds 1999 Leblanc Caroline
5. 2.8 seconds 1995 Renault Espace F1 Concept
6. 2.9 seconds 1991 Audi Avus Quattro Concept
7. 2.9 seconds 1995 McLaren F1 LM
8. 3.0 seconds 1999 Ferrari Koenig F50
9. 3.0 seconds 1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
10. 3.0 seconds 1999 Nissan Blitz Skyline GT-R R348

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We seem to be drifting ever so slightly off topic, chaps . . .
This is where it went off!
An excellent secondary topic, but it would be better to start a new one if tangentialism is your aim.
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Photos of the Magane Trophy at Paris





Type: Mégane Renaultsport

Chassis: Tubular (to FFSA 'Silhouette' safety standards + front/side crash boxes)

Engine: V4 Y

Capacity: 3.5 litres

Max. power: 320hp

Max. torque: 309 Nm

Electronic management: Magneti-Marelli

Transmission Sequential 6-speed (+ reverse), automatic clutch, steering wheel control

Wheels: FR 8X18, RR 9X18

Front brakes: Ventilated steel discs, dia. 356mm x 32mm, 6-pot callipers

Rear brakes: Ventilated steel discs, dia. 330mm x 32mm, 4-pot callipers

Tyres: FR 21-65/18; RR 24-65X18

Wheelbase: 2625mm

Length: 4375mm

Width: 1910mm

Fuel tank: 45 litres

Max. speed: over 155 mph

Weight: 950kg

Price: Less than 100,000 euros

Overall season cost (est.): 180,000 euros
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And I keep insisting that this would make an excellent club class

Won't somebody do it in vacuform ??????????????
QUOTE (McLaren @ 24 Sep 2004, 20:16)QUOTE top rallycross cars can accellerate faster than an F1 car.

F1 cars aren't built for acceleration only, top speed 210mph.

Rally cars are, top speed 120mph.

I'm sure if you paid someone enough money, they could build you a car with awesome acceleration then they might be able to crack sub 3's. But it's still doubtful.

You can have as much power in the world, but you still have the eternal weight struggle. It needs to be light, so there is less mass to accelerate. And it needs to be heavy to keep traction to prevent wheelspin.

Also, wide tyres means more rubber on the road, but the increased area combined with the same mass of the car means there is less pressure from the tyre on the road.

You'd also need an engine with a power band which can take the car from stand still to 60mph without havong to change gears.

Aerodynamics are also important, even at that speed...

And on top of all that, you'd need an awesome driver and time to have about 50 trys... a tailwind... a hot day... grippy tarmac...

It's not gonna happen basically...

McLaren
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Umm... Im pretty sure TSRF mentioned that Top Fuel Rails can get to 60 in just over a second. So it would seem that cracking sub 3 sec 0-60 performance is hardly impossible.
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WTF is a Top Fuel Rail?

And if it utilises jet power, like it sounds, then it's not a car.

McLaren
One of these:



And as you can see it utilises a supercharged V8 not a Jet engine.
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Top fuel rails and funny cars really do have a handle on all this accelerating guff. You're talking around 4 to 5 G's slamming you in the seat. They are routinely quicker than jet powered cars thanks to having the wheels driven.
Mind you, gas mileage is pretty carp! According to Smax Smith (european champion) his top fuel rail drinks about 16 gallons of that nitro methane on a run (oh, it costs around £30 a gallon!).

Cars can always go quicker - just throw money and expertise at them LOL.
Funny, isn't it, how nobody thinks of Renault as a performance car maker. I mean they don't half try hard - remember the gorgeous Alpine GTA-V6? Ate Porsches for breakfast, cost half the price... sold six.

After Ford's departure from European motor sport, Renault is the second most prolific manufacturer in world motor sport behind GM... seven global programmes, squillions of euros and STILL nobody thinks 'I want a fast car... let's go to the Renault dealer.'
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