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Al Schwartz
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I just unpacked my MMK cars # 2&3 this morning (I commented on the Lister several weeks ago) Here's my initial impressions (not run yet)

C-type Jag - another beautiful model - the body looks right. It has a resin chassis, an adequate guide and metal wheels as before. My initial impression was that the rear wheels/tires were too small - a lot of "air" around them but I dug out some photos of the real thing and this "skirts-up" attitude seems to be right. - Only niggle (already communicated to PdL and I am sure it will be set right) - the windscreen is cloudy. It is a (probably cast, not molded) part unlike the screen of the Lister and the Ferrari which are vac-forms*. The finish is first rate with a nice photo etched grille that appears to have a third headlamp behind it (Iwas not aware of this feature - any comments?)

Ferarri Monza - my initial impression was that the body was "off". It has a pronouced "nose-high" attitude - not a slope in the body but less drop from the center of the front wheels to the intake than I expected. After looking at some shots of the 750 Monza, I think it may be correct or nearly so (the later 860 had more droop to the front) I'll try to shoot a profile shot later and post it for second opinions. Interesting detail - there are tiny dimples at the rear edge of the hood (bonnet) and trunk(boot) - obviously placed to accept photo etched hold-downs. I think I have some around -challenge # 1 - find them - challenge #2 -see them well enough to insert!

As has been noted in other posts - neither car has the headlamp fairings - I think that this is a wise decision - I left them off my Slot Classics 350 because I knew that they would vanish in the first shunt.

Both cars have the same wheels and tires - alloy wheels with photo etched spoke inserts. The inserts are flat and not as convincing as the Slot Classics or, for that matter, inserts made from turned down Ninco wires (my favorite scheme)

I shall probably change out the wheels and tune them with weight and gearing - longer term the bodies would certainly warrant new metal chassis with some articulation to improve handling.

Overall - great examples of a great era.

EM

*I doubt that the anticipated volumes would support making a mold for injection molding these parts. Clear casting resins are available but they require very careful high vacuum degassing prior to casting.
 

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I have been told by MMK that the w/s can be made "clear" by painting a coat of polyurethane varnish over them.


The wire wheels are not as good as the Slot Classics, but the price of the cars is less than half...
And note that the only Slot Classics entered in the Marconi proxy self-destroyed in less then 2 heats with terminal gearmesh failure, not acceptable in a car of that price.


There is indeed a "fog" lamp behind the Jaguar grille, just like the real thing.
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QUOTE (TSRF @ 13 Jan 2004, 07:12 PM)I have been told by MMK that the w/s can be made "clear" by painting a coat of polyurethane varnish over them.
- and, on closer inspection it will be no great trick to form up a piece of plastic sheet as a substitute.

I can fully appreciate the issue with the Slot Classics cars - the only one that I have built up is the 350. Despite hours of grinding to reduce the weight of the body and the addition of a significant brass plate at the front to carry the guide, it is a mediocre performer at best ( I didn't even try to use the supplied gearing - went to Slot It straight away.) My current plan for the car (project #873) is to go to a heavy, pupose built chassis and use a fairly powerful motor with short gearing to maintain braking.

I think that it is important to recognize that low volume, hand made cars will have different issues than high volume cars from major vendors (and different as well from one-offs built by dedicated modellers) An example of this is the difference in handling resulting from the scale or very near scale width of the body contrasted with, for example, the width of the Ninco 166 which is nearly 3/8" too wide. This is exacerbated by the thickness of the body shell which often dictates a track that is narrower than the scale dimensions (although this problem is shared by a volume production car, the Carrera D type)

I am reminded of a story (probably apochryphal) that I read some time ago: A new Rolls Royce owner, previously a Mercedes driver, was complaining about some less than perfect functionality in his new mount. The response from the dealer was that: "Faults can be expected in a car of the stature of a Rolls Royce that would be unacceptable in a lesser automobile."

EM
 

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QUOTE And note that the only Slot Classics entered in the Marconi proxy self-destroyed in less then 2 heats with terminal gearmesh failure, not acceptable in a car of that price.
QUOTE I think that it is important to recognize that low volume, hand made cars will have different issues than high volume cars from major vendors
I think the off the shelf Beardog fared a little better Eh!


This car really was"Off the Shelf"too.It was the same car I had at Chicago,and was exactly as Chris built it and sent it to me a month or so earlier.
 
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I used an identical Slot Classic Merc to race though the Christmas Holiday with no problems so it probably was a fault just on that car.

I would really like to review one of Chris's cars

RR.
 

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The Beardog McLaren was good to drive, and handled fine without its magnets. It was a bit heavy which handicapped it against the Walwick Brabham-Alfa, but its looks will probably place it on top at the end. We won't know until Thursday because too much to do!
The MMK would have been a hoot to drive on this track but I FORGOT TO BRING SOME!!! Total brain fade from Leader Maximo AKA El Dick-Tatooor.


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QUOTE The Ferrari in particular is high on my hit list.

A Fly Truck Merc is an excellent weapon of choice then, John P. Those 'old country' rivalries never die, do they...

I agree with Rail Racer about the gear mesh problem on that proxy Slot Classic car. My Morgan arrived with a similar problem but it was just a very small detail part had come loose in transit and, of course, found its way to the gear train. Easily fixed, those cars have such tiny detail parts and not much place for glue. And when fixed, the car is an excellent match for Ninco Classics and MMK cars.



Edit: I forgot to mention that the MMK website has been revamped and shows a second C type, 1954 Le Mans. One pic shows the cloudy windscreen that Ecurie Martini mentions in his review. Simulated smeared bugs?
 

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QUOTE A Fly Truck Merc is an excellent weapon of choice then, John P. Those 'old country' rivalries never die, do they...
LOL!!


...on my track I just hope it catches up before reaching the "low bridge ahead" warning sign. Kerr...unch
 

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The MMK Ferrari is a nice car. But i had to remove the tailpipe for it to run. It's so low it was draging on the track. Anyone else have to make this mod on theirs? I really good runner without it.
 

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My local shopkeep was showing me that problem on the Ferrari t'other day, 58fury, and also that the windscreens are a bit foggy. And the lack of headlamp covers.

But the thing that really jarred him was the Jag sporting a CONCAVE grille. Could have been a one-off I suppose, but it didn't look as if it had been damaged that way.

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Thanks for the reply Mr M. Glad to know that mine wasn't the only one like it. She gets her first true test tonight racing. My local club is running a vinatge lemans class 1950-1965. So she will be up against a few Carrera's,MRRC 275's and some Cobra coupes. Should be fun! I put a pair of silies from my Lotus 7 on the back for a little extra grip on the sport track. We will she if she is up to the task!
 

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QUOTE But the thing that really jarred him was the Jag sporting a CONCAVE grille. Could have been a one-off I suppose

This is obviously a case of either shipping damage or dealer-induced damage. You should return the car for exchange.

Regarding the tailpipe, I will check this today on a dozen cars and report.

The MMK site has indeed be re-vamped, and there is a second C-Type on the February program as well as the Tipo 63 Maserati.
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QUOTE (TSRF @ 15 Jan 2004, 06:06 PM)The MMK site has indeed be re-vamped
Where do I find MMK´s site. I´ve been looking high and low and can´t seem to find it. Could you make a link? Really interested, as they make some GREAT cars.
 

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I checked the Ferrari Monza tailpipe, and sure enough it DOES clear but not by much... Best is to cut it and re-route it from the side of the chassis wherte there is plenty of room.

the US MMK site is My Webpage.

I am working in close relationship with Victor Di Natali on this line of cars, and am willing to consider any suggestions for new models or improvement to the line.
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I agree, well worth the money. I ran my Monza Wednesday at my club races and she handled great. Plenty of power(just like a NC1) easly controlled slides and a beauty on the track. I put a pair of silies from my Lotus 7 and they fit perfect. I blew the doors off the Carrera D types and Astons that I raced against. You will not be disapointed with these great cars. Plus it provided a certain "WOW" factor for my club. It's always fun showing up with somthing new that can't be had at the local shop.
 

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Actually, of all the hand-built cars out there, they appear to be so far the most reliable, most fun cars I have seen. And they appear to be quite strong too, as quite a few trips to the hard floor have not caused any damage yet.
Let's hear it for MMK!
I propose a MMK race at the Las Vegas Smoke-out Konvention in May. Any takers?
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