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I remember that buggy kit the first time round. I never had one, but my brother did, although I don't remember him ever building it. I love the way that it's RHD, so almost certainly represents British, but the box art completely avoids the grim reality of a vehicle with inadequate weather protection in the Land of the Long Grey Cloud :D.
 

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I live in a small community of a type in which shopkeepers always like to talk and share a joke, which is nice, but... Buy a kit and there's an automatic assumption that it's for my grandchildren.

Having dispossessed the good folk of Herefordshire of such an absurd notion, they adopt an awkward stuttering mode, and a sympathetic facial expression indicating that their next question will be: "Would you like a chair and a glass of water?"

I might be senile and stupid but, unlike my grandchildren, I can still open a book without asking what the password is...
What's that quote I saw recently? Something along the lines of "If you think current generations are brighter than past ones, bear in mind that car handbooks used to tell you how to adjust the tappets. Now they tell you not to drink the contents of the battery".
 

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Here in México, long time ago in Acapulco there was a donkey that drank beer... A camel would actually be a sight 😄
When I was small, a long time ago, our garden backed on to a field owned by the landlord of the local pub. He kept a donkey there. Every morning, after flushing the pumps, or whatever landlords do before opening, he'd bring the resultant bucket of stale beer down to the field gate and present it to the donkey, who would down all 2-3 gallons of it in a matter of a few seconds, with every sign of enjoyment, then go and lean against our garden wall for a couple of hours, contentedly dozing in a haze of fermented hops. Lived to a ripe old age too, AFAIK.
 

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If memory serves, the bloke who designed the Beetle engine (no, it wasn't Dr Porsche) was a former Zundapp engineer.

Having owned both Beetles and Russian flat-twin motorcycles (often regarded as BMW copies, but very definitely not when examined closely, containing elements of BMW, Zundapp and NSU design), it's quite possible to see some quite tightly intertwined strands of DNA in 1930s air cooled engine design. I've never been up close to a Tatra, but I'd bet there'd be some overlap there too.
 

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The air-cooled flat-4 was designed by Prof Porsche in 1910 and first saw service in an aircraft in 1911.

The first BMW flat-twins emerged in 1923.

Your information is greatly at variance with history.
I don't deny that Porsche had worked with flat 4 units previously, but, according to the first VW history I've managed to dig out from under the bed, the Beetle engine had its origin round about 1935-36, designed by fellow Austrian engineer Franz Reimspiess. It would appear that my memory did mislead me regarding the Zundapp connection, and the design was more influenced by NSU practice.
 

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With my pedant's hat on, maybe the gang would be making more progress if the tractor had its tyres on the right way round. Or is it the case, like at least one of the tractors near my childhood home, that the only working gear left in its ancient 'box is reverse?
 

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The Beetle used appropriate technology to fulfil its design brief, which was also good enough to considerably exceed its design brief, in ways that it's designers probably didn't fully imagine at the time.

Example: oil/air cooled engine has nothing to freeze, an important consideration in Northern Europe. It can also be very light, as you can make it from magnesium and aluminium alloys, which require very careful care and feeding if in contact with liquid coolants. It can also be made self contained. No coolant hoses to disconnect or radiators to get in the way during an engine change. As the Beetle architecture was always going to become the basis of military vehicles this is particularly significant, as mechanical work may be required to be done under "difficult" conditions. Oh, and there is the not insignificant consideration that, in 1930s Europe, economical motorised transport had, for many, meant a motorcycle. Many of those who might be expected to be driving or working on Beetles would be very familiar with the nature of the Beetle engine, which bears far more resemblance to a motorcycle engine of its time than to any conventional car engine.

Yes, all things being equal it will be noisier than something with a water jacket and a more constant operating temperature, but refinement wasn't much of a consideration for a people's car in the 1930s.

Yes, if you try to get more power out of it than designed you can run into heat management problems which, in a water cooled design can usually be solved by pumping more coolant and increasing rad size. On an aircooler things like fin area become important if you're going to demand sustained high power outputs, and it's notable that, say, a Porsche 356 cylinder head carries far more fin area than that of a Beetle. However, the Beetle had enough cooling to do what it was intended to do.
 

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Earlier today I exercised misjudgement and cycled in gusting 50mph wind. 'Twas most unwise so I shall spend the rest of the day in the warmth and safety of the Mess with like-minded idiots. Still playing with Beetles, therefore, after all these years.

As we rapidly approach the end of 2021, and start a new year, I've been looking back. One hundred years ago Austro-Daimler built the Porsche-designed Sascha, which enjoyed team success in the following year's Targa Florio. I note that the French military occupied the Rhineland at a time that Prof Porsche was also engaged in designing large overhead-camshaft cars for road use by Austro-Daimler's increasingly demanding customers.

For some the 1920s were the roaring or swinging '20s, while 100 years later, life is anything but swinging, unless you've got a Mess. A what? A Mess. View attachment 290806 View attachment 290807 View attachment 290808 View attachment 290809 View attachment 290810 View attachment 290811 View attachment 290812 View attachment 290813 View attachment 290814
Nice to see that first race crew complying with mask requirements. Not much scope for proper social distancing in that cockpit though. Better just get moving a bit to ensure adequate ventilation, to disperse the aerosols produced by screaming, swearing, and praying aloud.

I also note that the riding mechanic doesn't get a mud/stoneguard. Presumably, being from the lower orders, he's considered a consumable.
 

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Speaking of Beetles with excessive power units, I'm reminded of one that appeared in Hot Car magazine in about December 1982 or thenabouts. It was an otherwise largely standard Mac strut example (I forget now whether 1302 or 1303 flavour) with a Rover V8 hanging off an adaptor plate on its original transaxle ie not mid-mounted, which would have been the sensible way to do it. I know the all alloy Rover is relatively light for its displacement, but even so I'd have thought it rather likely to tempt Sir Isaac from his tomb in order to give the perpetrator a jolly good slap in the pendulums. As I recall, the article did include photos of the device in motion, although, perhaps tellingly, not cornering.
 

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Interestingly, Pat, the 3.5-litre V8 Rover engine weighed less than the 1.8-litre 4-cylinder unit fitted to the MGB (and Morris Marina). When the V8 Rover engine was shoehorned into the MGB, it was endowed with the same performance figures as the 2-litre 4-cylinder Porsche 924.
Yes, the BMC B-Series was a heavy old lump. When replacing the unit in my mother's Morris Oxford (an awful car in most respects; I do not mourn the loss of hundreds to banger racing) I remember proceedings being hampered somewhat by the small moon which insisted on orbiting the cylinder block.
 

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Great film, and definitely worth a rewatch. Also worth a look are the two main biographies of Mr Munro, One Good Run: The Legend of Burt Munro, and Burt Munro:Indian Legend of Speed, both of which show that the real story is no less remarkable than the cinematic adaptation. There's also some interesting stuff in there about Bonneville in the 60s, including a truly chilling account of a fatal accident involving a streamliner and a nitromethane leak.

As someone who lived and breathed motorcycles for decades, I first came across Burt's story as part of the oral tradition of bikers in the UK. Around rally bonfires, in greasy caffs, and dingy pubs, every so often the conversation would turn to the tale of the mad Kiwi who, over the course of 40 years, hand-carved a motorcycle from scrap metal, took it to Bonneville on a tiny budget, and coaxed it to 200 mph. It was truly inspirational stuff for a skint 20 year old trying to keep utter rubbish running, through British winters.
 

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I do remember an old story in a Vw bug of an aunt of me, my cousin and me were sitting in the back seat of the car, while my aunt was driving and suddenly the back seat began to smell funny, like wood burning, smoke began to fill the back of the cabin and my aunt stop to see what was happening, only to discover the battery of the car was touching the wire harness of the seat, thus making the cushion burn a little…
One of a number of "standard" ways for older air-cooled VWs to self-immolate.
 

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I'd be careful with shiny finishes like that. You might find yourself the subject of a hostile takeover by ICI, who, legend has it, bought up Sunbeam Motorcycles c1935 in order to find out how they got their legendary deep black lacquer finish. In keeping with both the nature of such legends, and the nature of the British motorcycle industry, I suspect that they found that the secret was an old bloke called Sid, complete with paint stained dust-coat, Woodbine permanently attached to bottom lip, and a workbench piled high with unlabelled containers of arcane powders and potions, which would be added to each paint batch in seemingly random combinations, along with a good quantity of ash off the end of said Woodbine.
 

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The interesting thing that sticks out about the 1952 Beetle pic to me is that the chrome is period correct. Chrome in 1952 didn't look like a mirror. It was more of a matt finish.

Beautiful artwork, Laurence! (y)
I tend to think of matt/satin plating as being nickel rather than chrome. I don't know about Beetles, but the brightwork on an awful lot of pre-WW2 British cars was certainly nickel. Chrome was considered rather vulgar by many.
 

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I'll play devil's advocate. :devilish:

"Wash and wear cars" ? Oh heck yeah!

When you've cut and rubbed enough cars; there' something to be said for the WIP, work in progress, aka DP-90 hot rod look. (matte black sealer)

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I have to confess that, possibly, my all time favourite movie car is the primer grey '55 Chev from 2-Lane Blacktop.
 

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Don't know it, Pat. Would a pic be poss, please?
A quick search online failed to find many really good pics that show the original car in all it's businesslike, primery glory, but here's a (good) replica, which includes the vertical streaking which was a striking feature of the real car. Or maybe it's just raining.
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And an original publicity shot for the movie.

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What the pics don't, of course, show, are the rumbly Big-Block noises, and the ultra-spartan interior. It is to the great credit of the film company that they used a car that authentically replicated genuine contemporary street/strip machinery.
 

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My dad had a bent sense of humour. He loved his 56-Chevy. He would pull into a gas station and say "Fill her up, please?". Then watch the poor fellow hunt for the gas cap. Finally someone would ask, and my dad would swing the driver's tail light out of the way with a big smile. Big kids, eh?
Not dissimilar to my own experience the first time I had to fill up my (Oz market) Mk2 Escort. Discovered that the "fuel cap" in the usual UK position on the rear wing was just a blanking plate, and had a panicky (I was pretty much on fumes, so not filling up and figuring it out later at home wasn't an option) hunt for the actual filler, before discovering that the rear number plate hinged down to reveal it. Why Ford Australia did this, whilst still using the UK wing pressing, I have no idea.
 
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