[JOHN SECCHI]

There you go Phil, I will start it off and see what happens.
The idea is to have a 1/32 vintage MRRC meet at NLondon later on this year depending on interest, probably open it up to other manufacturer kits with open frame motor as well.
A couple of classes can be run on the day so maybe a standard kit/RTR open wheeled class and a closed bodied scratch class, any thoughts/ideas?
If you are worried about your old motors not running too well I can have the zapper available to all on the day for a small fee, zap as many as you like!
Let's hear it!
[oneofwos]

 

[merkit the grof]

Sounds good to me, perhaps to include steering as well.

Joel

 

[vfr750]

Depending on the date I would be interested.

cheers

John

 

[dgersh]

Same here, would be interested depending on the date - and the calendar is already very full! Maybe January, for my birthday?

Don

 

[ArJayAytch]

I'd be up for it, it would get a number of e-bay buys out and running once Ortmann rears are bought. Ref. the closed bodied cars could we not have a standard class as well? MRRC Clubman Specials and Revell kits eg. Cobras, 250 GTOs, Corvettes...

Richard
Luton SCC

 

[JOHN SECCHI]

Nearly enough for a meet already!
Don/John
The NLondon calendar has nothing going on till next year and I checked the SF calendar it has several Sunday's [26/8..9/9...16/9...14/10...21/10...4/11] free that don't seem to clash with anything too important, was thinking September rather than later. Let me know the dates you cannot make.
Richard
There seemed to be more choice of open wheeled cars in kit and RTR from the various manufacturers that used open framed motors than closed bodied cars, easier to get the various larger open frame motors to fit the closed bodies when scratch building.
What I would like to see is as many original period scratch cars compete, cars that I have seen posted on this forum but never get to race because they do not fit the various rule sets, cars as raced in there day.
[oneofwos]

 

[scaleslotcars]

There has been discussion about a 'with steering' event in the past so maybe this could be combined with this MRRC (any open frame motor?) idea.
I think the cars would have to be pre 63ish to tie in with the vintage parts being used, open wheeler and sports car classes.
Maybe a control rear tyre in the form of the Ortmann Supershells Doughnut tyre ref:41s
This fits a narrow rim but has a decent width and was very popular tyre in the sixties.
Some of those dates are already taken up John, look at my diary
First two weekends in November look good to me although I haven't checked the BSCRA diary.

 

[Mick Kerr]

Hi John,
I'd like to do this as well but the calendar is very crowded up to the end of this year.
I will PM you with a copy of my event spread sheet so you get an overview of all the currently listed meetings.
Two questions about possible motor rules;
1. Would it be original standard magnets only?
2. Would double pole pieces be allowed as 'in the day'?
I like the idea of steering on the GP cars.
Cheers.
Mick.

 

[JOHN SECCHI]

Phil
Didn't want to restrict the available models, most of the MRRC open wheeler kits/RTR date from 64/65 onwards as do kits from various other makes, just need a cut off date. Both classes should be with or without steering.
The scratch closed bodied should have a cut off date, possibly 67 as after this most cars raced would have had can motors fitted.
If we do have to have rules [didn't want to bog this thing down with too many!] for the scratch then some of the original NLondon rules could be used as this is the kind of event they were written for, might have to change a few things as these were written for what was available back in the 80's.
It's a good idea to go with Ortmans [or originals if you can get them to work!] as they work well on the NLondon track and have replica tyres for most period kits/RTR, for original scratch builds a like for like Ortman replacement would be right but we could restrict for new scratch builds.
Lets try and keep this thing as simple as possible, there are enough other events that are bogged down with too many which in the end exclude the cars they were intended for!
[oneofwos]

 

[JOHN SECCHI]

Mick
Will try accommodate everybody but that would probably be impossible, still looking short[ish] term.
Am all for double pole pieces with standard magnets, will have the zapper available so no reason to see anything other than the original fitted.
As I have said in the original post, want to see as many original cars as possible, in whatever series they ran in [ECRA Etc Etc]
The open wheeled class is the kit based class so will have a mixture of steering/non steering models.
[oneofwos]

 

[merkit the grof]

Agree with the double pole pieces, but not so sure about any open frame, the Pittmans will blitz the MRRC/Triang motors I think.
Perhaps we should stick to the original MRRC idea (keep it British I say).

Joel

 

[scaleslotcars]

Yes keep it British and simple.
Motors:- MRRC 3 or 5 pole with integral rear bracket (neo magnets ok and double pole pieces only allowed with standard magnets)
Steering:- MRRC, VIP, Airfix or Supershells
Tyres (rear) :- Ortmann Supershells Dougnuts (41s)
Classes:- open wheel and Sports up to end of '65
no other rules!

 

[gasowder]

Probably not on par with a full house 3 pole but how about K's with or without MRRC arms ?
Eddie

 

[scudbong]

QUOTE Yes keep it British and simple.

Totally agree, can we include K's motors though and saloon cars. Most of my cars from this era are period built saloons and mainly have K's, it would be shame to exclude them. Maybe we could have seperate class all together for saloons?

Thanks,

Pete

 

[scaleslotcars]

See no reason why K's can't be included (specially as I have just got hold of a brand new one in the box

) and Saloons could be amalgamated with the sports class unless there is time to run three classes.
How about the Airfix Slimline?
I think there is a need for a 'max chassis width' and/or 'no sidepans' rule as well.

 

[scaleslotcars]

Sports car ready to assemble!

 

[roblees]

Lovely Felday Phil.

Seems like only yesterday I posted somewhere that an all-MRRC race would be good, and here we are.

Count me in.

I have 3 poles, 4WDs and clubman specials, Mercs, Novis and a couple of rebodies, would love to be able to give them all a run.

Can we also allow use of original and Ortmann-replica Diamond tyres?

Best, Rob

 

[scaleslotcars]

and the open wheeler

just need to find a suitable saloon body now, I think I have a K&B Pontiac GTO body somewhere

Cancel that, found a new in the bag Airfix Zodiac kit, keep it British

 

[JOHN SECCHI]

Quite a bit of interest, not long before it triggers a post in the events section!
I would like to keep this as simple as possible without too many rules, the scratch class to be "closed bodied" with open frame motors either any original built 60's car as is or replica's.
The closed body has the affect of limiting the track and wheel base, for new scratch builds wheel size and ground clearance as per class5 of the version2 North London retro rules which can be found on the CSCRA site, original builds as is.
The "open wheel" class is intended for standard kits/RTR using open frame motors, cars from any era available as kits or RTR in the 60's [cut off date to be confirmed].
That should open it up to loads of MRRC 3/5 pole, 4wd, Clubman, Ballrace RTR, also VIP RTR, SuperShell FI kits, Atlas F1 and some early Scalextric cars and others, measured the outside width of the front axle/steering unit of a few of the cars in my possession and they are as follows:
MRRC Mercedes W196 3/5 pole = 52.50mm
" " " 4WD = 54.50mm
" BRM Ballrace = 51.50mm
" Eagle " = 57.20mm !!!!! [have I got the right steering unit fitted?]
I would say that 56mm max width should probably be the limit for this class, I have used the width of the steering units as they would be difficult to alter.
Not sure "British" only is the right thing to do, I have both Pittman 196B and MRRC double pole 3pole motors and there is not a lot in it, possibly the very last dewound 196B's might be quicker but no easy way of knowing unless you have the box it came with, don't forget the K's STV is no snail!
Regards tyres, would go with Ortman or original supplied tyres only [no sponge or silicon]. They make replica tyres for most of the above cars and should have something for the scratch builders, don't think it should be limited to only one type as the wheel rules will limit the width anyway.
Depending on turnout we will try and group the cars as close as possible for the heats and finals, would like to see the originals running together.
[oneofwos]

 

[scaleslotcars]

Too complicated, John (IMHO)
Already losing interest once ground clearance and max widths etc creep in.

I'd like to see it as a recreation of the typical club cars of the early sixties and I think that's what a lot of others are thinking to.