[jamracing]

I've been looking at MSC cars online lately, and am liking the look of the Metro 6R4 and RS200 but was wondering on just what they are like.

And I guess this is the best place to come!

How do they perform without magnets? (Since I'm one of those anti-magnet'ers!)
Also do they all come with the monte carlo universal chassis with the drop guide arm? Since that would be very handy if they did!
And how 'easy' are they to convert to scaletxric digital?

 

[Savage]

They handle quite nice no-mag with a change of tyres, I haven't tried the Metro or RS but I have the Montecarlo chassis and it drives well and has a short drop-arm.
The AW Scooby is pretty good too, but beware they must use the same axle supplier as Ninco .. or possibly Cadbury's

I was going to paint my white kit, but it seems the plastic is different to most other cars as the shell melted during my "baking" phase in primer

 

[mtucker666]

If like their cars a lot - put your choice of rear tyres on (if you have a preference) and the cars offer lots of tuneability. Before getting them to turn a wheel though just ensyre the gears are correctly alligned and all moving parts are greased/oiled. In terms of performance the AW version of the subaru is excellent, and unlike savage I had no problems priming (halfords grey primer) or painting. The RS200 will outperform the 6R4.

Matt

 

[loosesalute]

A few of the lads at NERCS race MSC cars on our wooden club track.
They do perform very well, & look very nice!
Cheers,
Kev

 

[Scorpus Flex]

QUOTE (loosesalute @ 10 Jan 2012, 22:18) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>A few of the lads at NERCS race MSC cars on our wooden club track.
They do perform very well, & look very nice!
Cheers,
Kev

I use msc cars on the nercs track and they drive very nice and look great.

1. 6r4 and rs200 doesnt come with drop arms. I managed to fit a drop arm into my rs200 but it took a lot of chassis modification, a lot of time, and a lot of frustration. these cars do run on monte carlo chassis but the wheelbase of both are too short for a drop arm to go straight in. Im also not sure if the suspension springs fit on these cars.

2. I cant get the pinions off the motors to take the motors out. a pinion puller will not go on with the motor in the chassis. catch 22 situation. This might not be the case on all cars but my 2 suffer from this.

3. quality of parts. My 6r4 uses the same drive best as my rs200, but has a shorter wheelbase, meaning the band slips off on occasions. my rs200 had a warped chassis, which i had to send back to be replaced. Only has one mounting post at the rear, which isnt a system i like as it lets to body rock so the wheel arches rub on the rear tyres. I have also had to add spacers between chassis and body on both cars to stop tyre rub.

despite all this these cars are not only great fun group B monsters, if you have the time to get them going nicely they will blow the pants off any other slot car designed for rally. Avant slot get close but MSC is the brand for me. Tyre wise standard tyres are ok but i think 15x8 nsr or slot.it tyres depending on surface will work great, and I have some custom made dirt track wasp tyres for the metro.

The rs200 is only slightly faster than the metro, probably due to the slightly longer wheelbase and lower body. I would say at this stage go for whichever car is your favourite and see how it goes. It will probably need a little bit of fine tuning to get running well but what slot cars dont?

hope this helps

 

[Alvarez]

I have the Ford RS200 though I run on plastic track with magnets.
However heres some things I found out with it.
First I found that the body would scuff on the rear wheels alot, to fix this I had to put 2mm spacers on all the body mounting posts.
Second I found that the spur gear and grub screw would keep slipping on the rear axle causing it to loose drive. I ended up having to threadlock the grubs in so they dont work themselves loose. Also for me the car didnt come with the required allum key to remove them! Nightmare I had to fashion one out of a piece of metal...
I also found that the rubber mud flaps fell off all the time so it is now without them.
Other than that it's a fantastic car and drives very well, it very slippery but never feels out of control and consistently beats SCX 4wd cars around my track.
If you can get past the minor problems you will be greatly rewarded with a great car and one that has bags of driving character.

 

[jamracing]

Does anyone know if its possible to add the MSC Monte carlo universal chassis (Under MSC competition, on pendleslotracing.co.uk) to the shells of the Metro 6R4 and the RS200? since I see that the universal chassis has a drop arm (

), and adjustable wheel base so I pressume you can just adjust it to fit the body shells??

Have anyone tried this?

 

[Ian B]

The MSC Monte carlo universal chassis seems pretty difficult to get hold of have you actually contemplated how you would get one?

I have the RS200 and that is fun to run, I should have the AW Scooby today thanks for the tip Tel

As for chipping I can't see it being a major problem.

 

[nitro]

I have the msc RS200 and is my quickest 4x4 (apart from a heavily modified scx audi GTO),
I don't like the original motor so now run an NC6, 9/27 double band and is very stable, fiddly chassis that is easy to flex, I have mine as rigid as posible but kept the sprung guide, front & rear nsr alloys with zero & ultra grips respectively. The AW scooby runs well but the owner of 1 at our club has gone back to in-line, flat 6 motor l think. Take the mud flaps off!
I would be interesting to see it in short can version. Found the 6R4 tippy.

 

[Savage]

QUOTE (bleep @ 11 Jan 2012, 14:46) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The MSC Monte carlo universal chassis seems pretty difficult to get hold of have you actually contemplated how you would get one?

I have the RS200 and that is fun to run, I should have the AW Scooby today thanks for the tip Tel

As for chipping I can't see it being a major problem.
Plenty enough room for chipping the Scooby Ian, to clarify it wasn't the primer that affected the body, it was my "low bake" method, that up until now hadn't melted anything

I thought Pendle's and MRE had the universal monte carlo AW chassis ?
If not I may be tempted to part with my two, minus the wheels, PM me if interested

 

[CJA]

Ey Up guys.

I have the 6R4 and the RS200.

We run 4x4 class at Gainsbro on a wood routed track with copper tape.

The 6R4 was much too pokey, and transformed by replacing the motor with a short can 21 k motor, very nice to drive !!.

Likewise my RS 200 has an NSR 25k Shark, twin drive bands on 8:26, NSR Ultras on "air-hubs", Slotit wood-track guide. Very fast and drivable.

Both cars were stripped, straightened, re-assembled to straight, square and correct wheelbase, without bands, and then superglued together.

Whilst doing this, do not overtighten the screws, as this will distort the chassis !!.

The 6R4 is probably my favourite car !!, but it does not get much use cos we are very competitive and it just isnt quite fast enough for the top group !!.

Although we dont run on a rally track as such, I would confidently recommend them both.

vbr Chris A.